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    New ship I'd like some help with (any system)

    I absolutely suck at statting ships. I always get confused and messed up. I can come up with a design theory, role, etc but the number crunching is just a nightmare. I found this image online (credits on image) and came up with a general idea of what type of ship I thought it was:

    Rigel by Bentley by Horton.png

    Here's what I came up with as far as what I could do:

    The Rigel-class starship is both an uninspiring and absolutely indispensable part of Starfleet.* Sometimes known (semi-jokingly) as the "Adequate class", it is neither the fastest, most reliable, nor the most powerfully armed.* There is no field of specialization in which the Rigel excels.*

    By the same token, there is no field in which the class is considered particularly deficient.* It is sturdy and easy to maintain.* It has a respectable top speed of Warp 8, and can sufficiently defend itself against threats.* Like nearly all Federation starships, it has laboratory space on-board permitting it to undertake research and exploration missions.* In short, it can turn its hand to whatever purpose is required and get the job done, if not as well as a ship designed for that specific purpose.

    Given that, and also it's modest size and crew requirements, Starfleet has been able to construct and field more than 250 of these ships, using them primarily for general patrol and survey duties.* They are considered a good "beginner" ship for newly minted Command officers and post-Academy Midshipmen.* They are also popular "last tours" for older officers who did not seek or did not receive starbase or groundside assignments prior to their retirement.

    Rigel-class Starship

    L 261m*
    W 146m*
    H 36m / 17 decks*
    Mass 490,000mt**
    Top Speed: Wf 8**
    Armament: 7 x phaser arrays, 3 x torpedo launchers*
    75 warhead reserve**
    Shuttle complement: 2 x Type 7 or similar**
    Crew: 100**
    Passengers: 25**
    Evacutation Capacity: 625**

    * - derived from image
    ** - my guestimate
    Anyone want to take a shot at her is welcome to do so. And yes, I know there is a Rigel class in at least one of the ICON or Decipher books. I'm not overly fond of what I saw.

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    Well, I got hold of a spreadsheet and roughed something together. I don't know how good it is though.

    See post below for corrected file

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    Last edited by Chris Donovan; 12-02-2016 at 02:43 PM.

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    That's in the CODA system, so I can tell you, it looks great to me.

    With your permission, I'd love to use it at our gaming table.

    Well, some table... two couches and a carpet.

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    In your opinion, does it reflect the design intentions I set out? Is it "too good" for what is supposed to be an "unexceptional" starship of the early 2360s?

    Ok, I dug out my hardcopy of the books and BOY did I screw things up.

    This is the "corrected" version.

    You will have to manually add the Torpedo Launchers to her as the sheet won't do the calcs. She should have 2x Mk 50.

    Screenshot from 2016-12-02 14:40:48.png
    Last edited by Chris Donovan; 12-02-2016 at 02:46 PM.

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    Oh, I think either one would work.

    I like the first one the best just because it had the Torps in there already. I'm dreadful at any type of math. So, if it seems to match must of the stuff in the ships statted out in the Starships book, it good enough for us.

    Rachael pointed out that it's not too big or powerful. We need it to be not the best of fleet. I'm going to use it as the ship that gets attacked by our new "big bad", which will start a war.

    Thank you for doing all that work.

    I think it's great.

    Thank you

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    The first one works if you ignore the availability years. It's supposed to be from around 2360 and it has components that won't be available for another decade in it.

    But what ever works for your game.

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    Maybe the version with the later components if a refit. That would work.

    Maybe a refit for the Dominion War.

    And the second one you posted was the original 2360 version, with the refit coming out in, say, 2374.

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    Possible...

    I posted one over in CODA you might like. Owen didn't for some reason, but you might.

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    I noticed that. It looks pretty cool to me. I noticed you've been posting a lot of ships recently. I like them. More CODA ships !

    The more, the merrier in my opinion.

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    I found a spreadsheet to do the math for me, and I finally found the books so I could get the availability years right.

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    Here you go, from the Benevolent Uncle

    Rigel Class XI Heavy Scout

    Construction Data:

    Model Numbers- Mk IV
    Ship Class- XI
    Date Entering Service- 2338
    Number Constructed- 250
    Hull Data:
    Superstructure Points- 40
    Damage Chart- C
    Size
    Length- 261 meters
    Width- 146 meters
    Height- 34 meters
    Weight- 172,000 tons
    Cargo
    Cargo Units- 160 units
    Cargo Capacity- 8,000 tons
    Landing Capability- None
    Equipment Data:
    Control Computer Type- I-3
    Cloaking Device Type- None
    Power To Activate- N/A
    Transporters-
    Standard 7-person- 3
    Combat 12-person- 0
    Emergency 22-person- 3
    cargo large- 2
    cargo small- 2
    Other Data:
    Crew- 100
    Passengers- 25
    Troops- 0
    Shuttlecraft- 4
    Engines and Power Data:
    Total Power Units Available- 64
    Movement Point Ratio- 4/1
    Warp Engine Type- FWO-2
    Number- 2
    Power Provided- 20 ea
    Stress Charts- D/E
    Maximum Safe Cruising Speed- Warp 7
    Emergency Speed- Warp 8
    Impulse Engine Type- FIG-1
    Impulse Engine Output- 24
    Weapons and Firing Data:
    Beam Weapon Type- FH-20
    Number- 12
    Firing Arcs- 8 f/p/s, 1p, 1s, 2a
    Firing Chart- Y
    Max Beam Power- 10
    Modifiers-
    +3- (1-11)
    +2- (12-20)
    +1- (21-24)
    Missile Weapon Type- FP-9
    Number- 4
    Firing Arcs- 2 f/p/s, 2 a/p/s
    Firing Chart- W
    Power To Arm- 1
    Damage- 12
    Shields Data:
    Deflector Shield Type- FSU
    Shield Point Ratio- 1/3
    Maximum Shield Power- 23
    Defense Factor- 173.0
    Weapon Damage Factor- 167.6

    And for LUG

    U.S.S Aldebaron
    Class and Type: Rigel-Class Heavy Scout
    Commissioning Date: 2338
    Hull Characteristics
    Size: 5
    Resistance: 3
    Structural Points: 100
    Operations Characteristics
    Crew/Passengers/Evac: 100/25/625 [5 Power/Round]
    Computers: 3 [3 Power/Round]
    Transporters: 3 Personnel, 4 Cargo, 3 Emergency [5 Power/Round]
    Tractor Beams: 1 av, 1 fv [2 Pwr/Rtg/Rnd]
    Propulsion Characteristics
    Warp System: 6.0/7.0/8.0 (14 hours) [2/Warp Facter]
    Impulse System: .7c/.9c [79 Power/Round]
    Power: 145
    Sensor Data
    Long-Range Sensors: +2/17 ly [6 Power/Round]
    Lateral Sensors: +2/1 ly [4 Power/Round]
    Navigational Sensors: +2 [5 Power/Round]
    Sensor Skill: 4
    Tactical Data
    Type VIII Phaser
    Range: 10/30,000/100,000/300,000
    Arc: ALl (720 degrees)
    Accuracy: 4/5/7/10
    Damage: 16
    Power: [16]
    Type II Photon Torpedoes
    Number: 75
    Launchers: 1 ad, 2 fv
    Spread: 4
    Range: 15/300,000/1,000,000/3,500,000
    Arc: Forward and Aft, but are self-guided
    Accuracy: 4/5/7/10
    Damage: 20
    Power: [5]
    Weapon Skill: 4
    Defensive Data:
    Type IVa Deflector Shield
    Protection: 50/70
    Power: [50]

    History:
    The Rigel-class starship is both an uninspiring and absolutely indispensable part of Starfleet.* Sometimes known (semi-jokingly) as the "Adequate class", it is neither the fastest, most reliable, nor the most powerfully armed.* There is no field of specialization in which the Rigel excels.*

    By the same token, there is no field in which the class is considered particularly deficient.* It is sturdy and easy to maintain.* It has a respectable top speed of Warp 8, and can sufficiently defend itself against threats.* Like nearly all Federation starships, it has laboratory space on-board permitting it to undertake research and exploration missions.* In short, it can turn its hand to whatever purpose is required and get the job done, if not as well as a ship designed for that specific purpose.

    Given that, and also it's modest size and crew requirements, Starfleet has been able to construct and field more than 250 of these ships, using them primarily for general patrol and survey duties.* They are considered a good "beginner" ship for newly minted Command officers and post-Academy Midshipmen.* They are also popular "last tours" for older officers who did not seek or did not receive starbase or groundside assignments prior to their retirement.


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    This is fairly good. And fits the size like spandex.

    >>>Possible...

    >>>I posted one over in CODA you might like. Owen didn't for some reason, but you might.

    Yeah, he can be rather snippy, I do NOT get why he hassles the other guys, in my mind he sounds like a nasally cartoony guy who never gets along. He really should appreciate what you, cut, tobian, ufc and the rest have done, regardless of the size of our passions, we can make more designs with handsome intricacies, and cooperate.

    I didn't even really have any liking or drive with CODA after a while, but I sometimes did some ships in CODA in later monthes, out of detached interest, and to assist those who might lean towards that one system.
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    Thanks for the write ups. She looks good.

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