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    Smile FOCH-Class Carrier

    At last and without further comment the Foch class is now finished if somewhat overbudgeted (its Size 9 now) and late December 2373 but it is at least finshed.

    FOCH Class
    Type: Foch-Class Fleet Carrier
    Commissioning Date: 2373
    Registry: USS Foch NCC - 79835

    HULL SYSTEMS (160 SUs)
    Size: 8
    Length: 632.4 meters
    Beam: 376.4 meters
    Height: 90 meters
    Mass:
    SU Units: 3250
    SU Units Used: 3226

    Hull (48 SUs)

    Resistance (54 SUs)
    Outer Hull: 6
    Inner Hull: 4
    Ablative Armor: 500

    Structural Integrity Field (58 SUs)
    Main: Class 5 (Protection 80/120)
    [1 Power/10 protection/round]
    Auxiliary SIF: Class 3 (Protection 30)
    [1 Power/Protection/round]
    Emergency SIF: Class 3 (Protection 30)
    [1 Power/Protection/round]

    Specialized Hulls
    None

    PERSONAL SYSTEMS (738 SUs)
    Crew/Passenger/Evac: 1400/300 /22,000

    Crew Quarters (328 SUs)
    Spartan: 255
    Basic: 1105
    Expanded: 170
    Luxury: 85
    Unusual: 85

    Environmental Support (61 SUs)
    Basic Life Support: [13 power/round]
    Reserve Life Support: [7 power/round]
    Emergency Life Support: (48 Emergency Shelters)
    Gravity: [4 power/round]
    Consumables: 3 Years worth (1.5 x SU)

    Replicator Systems (60 SUs)
    Food Replicators:
    [8 power/round]
    Industrial Replicators
    Type: 2 small networks [4 Power/round]
    Type: 12 large units [16 power/round]

    Medical Facilities and Systems (155 SUs)
    Main Sickbay w/ EMH: Rating 10
    [12 power/round]
    Family Health Center w/EMH: Rating 7
    [9 power/round]
    100 basic Quarters: (serving as Hospital Beds)
    10 x 1st Aid stations: Rating 1
    [10 Power/round]

    Recreational Facilities: Rating: 7 (56 SUs)
    [14 Power/round]

    Personnel Transportation: Jefferies tubes, Turbolifts (24 SUs)
    [2 power/round]

    Fire Suppression System (8 SUs)
    [1 power/round used]

    Cargo Holds: 999,000 cubic meters (30 SUs)
    Locations: 24 Main cargo holds and other minor holds.

    Escape Pods: (16 SUs)
    Number: 300
    Capacity: 6 persons

    PROPULSION SYSTEMS (164 SUs)
    Warp Drive
    Nacelles: Type 7A6
    Speed: 7.2/9.2/9.5 [1 power/.2 warp speed]
    Warp Drive System Upgrades: 2x Package 3
    Notes: Embedded Nacelles Shields increase threshold
    by 10/ Protection 100
    Plasma Injection System (PIS): Type I (14 hours)

    Primary Impulse System
    Type: Class 8 Impulse Engine .75c/.95c [7/9 Power/round]
    Location: Aft
    Acceleration Upgrade: Alpha [2 Power/round]
    66% (two thirds) of maximum impulse speed per round

    Secondary Impulse System
    Type: Class 5 Impulse Engine .7c/.9c [7/9 Power/round]
    Location: Aft
    Acceleration Upgrade: Alpha [2 Power/round]
    66% (two thirds) of maximum impulse speed per round

    Reaction Control System: .25 [2 power/round used]


    POWER SYSTEMS (447 SUs)
    Warp engine
    Type Class 11/Q (generates 599 power/round)
    Location: Center/Aft
    3x Class 8 Impulse Engines (generates 192 power/round)
    2x Class 5 impulse Engines (generates 80 power/round)
    Auxiliary Power 4 Reactors (generates 5 power/reactor/round)
    Emergency Power: Type E (Generates 45 power/round)
    EPS: Standard Power Flow. +300 power/round

    Standard usable Power: 871

    OPERATIONS SYSTEMS
    Command & Control Systems
    Bridge Systems (40 SUs)
    Main Bridge
    Battle Bridge
    Auxcillary Control Centers
    Crisis Information Center (CIC)
    Deck Operations Center (DOC)

    Separation Systems: no

    Computer Systems (36 SUS)
    4 Cores
    [5 Power/round/Active core]
    Computer Upgrade: Class Bata
    [2 Power/round]
    +2 Computer test bonus

    Main Navigation Deflector: 32 SUs
    [5 power/round used]
    Range: 10/20,000/50,000/150,000
    Accuracy: 5/6/8/11
    Location: Forward Ventral

    Sensor Systems: (110 SUs)
    Long Range Sensors [5 power/round]
    Range Package: Type 7 (Accuracy 3/4/7/10)
    High Resolution: 5 Light Years (.5/.6-1.0/1.1-3.8/3.9-5.0)
    Low Resolution: 17 Light Years (1/1.1-6.0/6.1-13.0/13.1-17)
    Strength Package: Class 10 (Strength 10)
    Gain Package: Class Beta (+2)
    Coverage: Standard
    Lateral Sensors [5 power/round]
    Strength Package: Class 10 (strength 10)
    Gain Package: Beta (+2)
    Coverage: Standard
    Navigational Sensors: [5 Power/round]
    Strength Package: Class 10 (Strength 10)
    Gain Package: Class Beta (+2)
    Probes: 60 probes of varying types

    Sensors Skill: 5

    Flight Control Systems (142 SUs)
    Auto-pilot: Shipboard Systems (Flight Control) 4
    Coordination 2 [1 power/round in use]

    Navigational Computer
    Main: Class 3 (+2)
    Backups 2

    Inertial Dampening Field
    Main
    Strength: 9 [3 power/round]
    number: 6
    Backup
    Strength: 6 [2 power/round]
    Number: 6
    Attitude Control [2 power/round]

    Communications Systems (32 SUs)
    Type: Class 10 [2 power/round]
    Strength: 10
    Security Up rating: -7 w/class Delta
    Basic Up rating: Class Beta +2
    Emergency Backup: Yes [2 power/round]
    Holo-communications Equipped

    Tractor Beams (15 SUs)
    Emitter: Class Gamma [3 power/strength used/round]
    Accuracy: 4/5/7/10
    Location: Aft Starboard Ventral

    Emitter: Class Alpha [3 power/strength used/round]
    Accuracy: 5/6/8/111
    Location: Landing Bays 1 & 2

    Transporters (322 SUs)
    Type Personnel [5 power/use]
    Pads: 6
    Emitter receiver array: personal Type 6 (40,000km range)
    Energizing/Transition Coils: Class H (Strength 8)
    Location: 6 (17 SUs ea 102 SUs)

    Type: Emergency [3 Power/use]
    Pads: 6
    Emitter receiver array: Emergency Type 3 (15,000km range)
    Energizing/Transition Coils: Class H (Strength 8)
    Location: 6 (14 SUs ea 84 SUs)

    Type: Cargo [6 power/use]
    Pads: 12(1200Kg)
    Emitter receiver array: Cargo Type 3 (40,000km range)
    Energizing/Transition Coils: Class (Strength 8)
    Location: 8 17 SUs (ea 136 SUs)

    Cloaking Device: None

    Security Systems (176 SUs)
    Rating: 5
    Anti Intruder System: yes [1 power/round]8
    Internal Force Fields: [3 power/ 3 strength]8
    Brigs: 8 [4 power/brig used]

    Science Systems 42 SUs
    Rating: 1
    3Labs

    TACTICAL SYSTEMS (506 SUs)
    Forward Starboard Dorsal Phaser Array (38 SUs)
    Type IX
    Damage: 180
    Number of Emitters: 200 (up to 5 shots per round)
    Auto Phase Interlock: Beta 4/5/7/10
    Range:10/ 30,000/100,000/ 300,000
    Location: Forward Starboard Dorsal
    Arc: 90 degrees (Forward Starboard)

    Forward Starboard Ventral Phaser Array (38 SUs)
    Type IX
    Damage: 180
    Number of Emitters: 200 (up to 5 shots per round)
    Auto Phase Interlock: Beta 4/5/7/10
    Range: 10/ 30,000/100,000/ 300,000
    Location: Forward Starboard Ventral
    Arc: 90 degrees (Forward Starboard)

    Forward Port Dorsal Phaser Array (38 SUs)
    Type IX
    Damage: 180
    Number of Emitters: 200 (up to 5 shots per round)
    Auto Phase Interlock: Beta 4/5/7/10
    Range: 10/ 30,000/100,000/ 300,000
    Location: Forward Port Dorsal
    Arc: 90 degrees (Forward Port Dorsal)

    Forward Port Ventral Phaser Array (38 SUs)
    Type IX
    Damage: 180
    Number of Emitters: 200 (up to 5 shots per round)
    Auto Phase Interlock: Beta 4/5/7/10
    Range: 10/ 30,000/100,000/ 300,000
    Location: Forward Port Ventral
    Arc: 90 degrees (Forward Port Ventral)

    Torpedoes (16 SUs)
    Forward Port Ventral Torpedo Launcher (7 SUs)
    Standard Load: Type II Photon Torpedo (200 damage)
    Spread: 5
    Range: 15/350,000/1,500,000/4,050,000
    Targeting System: Accuracy 4/5/7/10
    Power: [5+ spread fired]
    Location: forward Port
    Firing Arc Forward but are self-guided.


    Torpedoes Carried: 130 Type II Photon Torpedoes (9 SUs)


    TA/T/TS: Class Gamma [2 power/rd] (12 SUs)
    Strength 9
    Bonus: +2
    Weapons Skill: 5

    Shields: (Forward, Aft, Port, Starboard) (319 SUs)
    Shield Generator: Class 5 (Protection 900)
    [90 Power/shield/round]
    Shield Grid Type B (33% increase to 1200)
    Subspace Field Distortion Amplifiers: Class ETA (Threshold 400)
    Recharge System Class I (45 Sec.)
    Backup Shield Generators 1 per shield (8 SUs)
    Auto Destruct: Yes (7 SUs)

    CARIER FLIGHT SYSTEMS (308 SUs)
    Standard Craft Complement 2 Squadrons Fighters/Atmosphere attack (24 points), 2 Squadrons Torpedo Bombers (24 Points), 1 Squadron scouts (12 Points) and 1 mixed Administrative/Shuttle Squadron (12 Points)
    Craft Torpedoes carried: 160 Type XXI Photon Torpedoes
    1 Flight Deck (48 points worth of Craft)
    1 Hanger Deck (48 Points of Craft)
    2 Recovery Decks (36 Points worth of craft)
    Elevators [1 power/round/used per 2 point capacity lifted]
    2x3 point Elevators
    4x2 point Elevators

    [This message has been edited by Eric R. (edited 01-14-2001).]

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    Bad news: If it's 3576 SUs it should be Size 10. Size 9 only goes up to 3500 SUs.

    I'm also getting a number of apparent errors eg. the inner & outer hull should be 4xSize each ie. 4x9 each for your stated size of 9 giving a total hull cost of 72 SUs not the 48 stated. Plus a number of other systems seem to be calculated based on size 8 eg. personnel transportation, fire suppression, bridge, etc.

    Swampy


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    Alright edit, recount, redid it, should come in uder the number needed.

    Of course Swampy you know as a whistle blower on an over budgeted and controversial program your Starfleet carrer or at least that at ASDB, is now effectively over with .

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    Has anybody tried to put it on Rick's template? Somehow it won't fit ...

    No wonder commissioning was delayed!


    [This message has been edited by Calcoran (edited 01-15-2001).]

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    Neat design Eric. Have you used it in any of your adventures yet? Since it was commissioned just prior (or during the opening phases of the war) to the Dominion War, it would be interestion to see how it fares. Its performance in the war could go a long way in settling the carrier debate (for it or against it).

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    Originally posted by Eric R.:
    Of course Swampy you know as a whistle blower on an over budgeted and controversial program your Starfleet carrer or at least that at ASDB, is now effectively over with .
    Swampy slips out of the back door at the ASDB head office. Looking around with a harried, guilty expression he slips into a nearby alleyway carrying with him a briefcase full of the latest Starfleet designs. "Ruin my career will they?" he muses bitterly, "We'll see what the Pakled will pay for these! Ha, ha, ho! Ha, ha, hahahahahahahahahahahahah!" [Camera fades to black]

    Anyways what do you expect with a design named after a French carrier. The Brits invented most of the carrier systems & the US perfected them, but what have the French ever done for us? ... Ok, apart from the wine, the cooking, Bridget Bardot, Leon & amusing the rest of the world by eating insect food?

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    Now that was pure French bashing! Even if this may seem unlikely, we are capable of very advanced technology, if somewhat on a smaller production scale. For instance the Tiger helicopter has nothing to fear from an Apache ... for instance, who do you think powers the FBI's AFIS (automatic fingerprint identification system)? ;P
    More on-topic, I liked the name, not because it was that of a French carrier, but rather because the original one, too, is a marvel of technology, but completely overbudgeted, controversial, and full of stupid flaws that completely shot it down in the public opinion (like propellers that were badly cast, so the carrier had to limp back to its port after one broke).
    Just like our starship ( or so I plan to use it in my games ). But I know my players are still going to love it ...

    P.S.: Insects ?!?

    P.P.S.: Still having problems to fit it into the template ... anyone has managed it?

    [This message has been edited by Calcoran (edited 01-16-2001).]

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    Originally posted by Swampy:
    Anyways what do you expect with a design named after a French carrier. The Brits invented most of the carrier systems & the US perfected them,
    As a point of Patriotic Pride, if your carrier systems are so perfect, then how come you still build them about 4x the size of ours? Like the Japanese say, "its only perfected when its miniaturised..."

    Besides technically we Brits perfected the armoured flight deck, and gave it to our allies as a valuable asset to carrier warfare in the Pacific.
    'Look, a flight deck, and its build from armour...' um not much to perfect there!

    OK, so I have veered wildly off topic... um, um...

    OK, I give up, cant get back on topic, let this post die here!

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    Now, now, guys. Let's not degenerate into jingoistic arguing. If we must insult other countries, let's stick with China, since we have no Chinese board members to get insulted, and that way we can maintain a NATO-like solidarity.

    Steve Long

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    First off, We Brit's automatically love to bash both the French and you Yanks, it's part of our cultural traditions.
    Second, in my humble opinion, not only is the Tiger fundamentally flawed and therefore should not have been even considered as a alternative to the Apache. The reason is that the French Army High Command, for some totally unfathomable reason, decided to split the roles of an Apache between two airframes, one Anti-Tank, the other Ground Attack.
    Finally, I wish the Royal Navy had either two Nimitz class Fleet Carriers or two Non-Nuclear Powered Charles de Guille Light Fleet Carriers instead of the badly designed and now obsolete Invincable class ASW Through-Deck Cruisers which they are presently lumbered with. A class designed as a result of the 1965 Labour Defence Review, in which our Traditional East of Aden Global Defence Policy was scrapped(along with most of our aerospace industry) in favour of extremely dogmatic Anti-soviet and European orientated defence policy. A policy to which our armed forces our still equipped to carry out and as consequence, the defence of this realm and of our interests around the world is being badly crippled, especially as the world returns to normality after the abnormality of the last century. A problem compounded by the fact that the two biggest threats to the defence of the relam is penny-pinching attitude of HM Treasury and the present Labour government obsession with being Politically Correct, especially towards Europe.

    Rant over.

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    Back to topic, I like the concept of a carrier, but I think you should have gone with a Class 10 hull from the begining, the armmanent should be increased to four High-Yield Torpdeo Tubes like the Intrepid class, the number of Ship Units increased from 72 to 108, thus allowing more multi-role Star Fleet Attack Fighters(instead of single role fighters and bombers) to be carried as well as a larger shuttle bay and the passenger accommadation increase from 300 to 3000 in order to carry a Regimental Combat Team of ground troops, mostly Andorians.
    Apart from these Critisms, I think it was good first effort at a dedicated Carrier class.
    Why don't someone else, have a go a designing a Carrier, either Fleet, Strike or Escort class. Over to you Swampy, O Grand-Master of the ASDB, The Great Guru of Starship Designers.
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    Orioginaly the carrier was supposed to hvae resources to carry a regimental sized ground force but cut backs and over budgetting got in the way and they had to be scapped. see the thread on Carriers for a full project history.

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    Sorry, Forgot about that thread, loved the project History bit. Very authentic feel to it.

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    Armored flight decks, on retrospect, have been shown to have a negligable impact on ship survivability.

    Are these Starfleet carriers expected to be right in the thick of battle or are they part of carrier battlegroups and are shielded from direct combat? If they are designed like conventional carriers we are familiar with then they don't need much in the way of offensive armament - after all they are going to be expensive enough (in resources and time) as it is.

    Also, can the Foch "pull a Voyager" and replicate new replacement fighters?

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    Originally posted by Tzeentch:
    Also, can the Foch "pull a Voyager" and replicate new replacement fighters?
    I think so. It would have an even more limited stratigic role if it could not. IMHO.

    To quote from the stats:

    Replicator Systems (60 SUs)
    Food Replicators:
    [8 power/round]
    Industrial Replicators
    Type: 2 small networks [4 Power/round]
    Type: 12 large units [16 power/round]

    I think that 12 large units should cover fighter replacement, but I would consider a third small network and 4 more large units in a future upgrade to support this ability.

    Doug Odell



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