How tall is Spacedock?

[spyone]

First, let me say that there must be two different sizes, because in ST III the Constitution Class fit through the doors (at 141m wide), but a ship much wider would not. In TNG, however, the Galaxy Class Enterprise fit through those doors, and its 560m wide.

So, I get out my trusty ruler and the copy of ST:The Magazine with a good picture of Spacedock.
It shows the smaller one, as a Constitution Class vessel is in the doorway.
Said ship is exactly 10mm across the saucer, so our scale is 10mm=140m or so. Ignoring the antennae at both ends, the top of the highest dome to the bottom of the station proper is .... 303mm which scales out to 4242m.
The larger one would be ... larger. I'd say at least 4 times as big, which would be 16,968m.
That's issue #9 if you want the pic.

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[AslanC]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by spyone:
So, I get out my trusty ruler and the copy of ST:The Magazine with a good picture of Spacedock.
It shows the smaller one, as a Constitution Class vessel is in the doorway.
Said ship is exactly 10mm across the saucer, so our scale is 10mm=140m or so. Ignoring the antennae at both ends, the top of the highest dome to the bottom of the station proper is .... 303mm which scales out to 4242m.
The larger one would be ... larger. I'd say at least 4 times as big, which would be 16,968m.
That's issue #9 if you want the pic. </font>

So you are telling me this ting (without antenne) is almost 17km tall? Ouch that is a big dang space station

Interesting

Thanks for the math...

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[Sawyer]

In a game I ran with a Spacedock, I had transporter stations (t-ports) to suppliment the turbolifts, which typically ran only 20 decks in range.

~~~randy~~>

[SIR SIG]

The one that E-D flys through is SB 74 from '11001001'.

So unless I've missed a ep where E-D goes through a big SB door at Earth

Then people are mixing things up.

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[AslanC]

No not the book.

The actual station in both Star Trek III and various TNG episodes.

I am really curious to it's dimensions.

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[qerlin]

Um...freakin' huge?

[Yandar]

AslanC

In the ST III sourcebook by FASA, Spacedocks measurments sre

Diameter 3.8 km
Length 4.7 km
Mass 110,000,000 mt
Crew 50,000
Non Resident Staff 4,500
Resident Depenents 100,000
Transient Population 20,000 max
Shuttles 40 to 110
Transporters
300 6 person
200 2 person
200 emergency 22 person
100 cargo
20 bulk cargo

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[AslanC]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by SIR SIG:
The one that E-D flys through is SB 74 from '11001001'. So unless I've missed a ep where E-D goes through a big SB door at Earth Then people are mixing things up.</font>

Yeah but that one is obviously the same class as Spacedock at Earth by this point right, therefore the station must be huge.

Actually this has always been one of my complaints about Next Gen. Why would they just make the same Space Station only 4 times as big? Seems silly to me...did they just shoot it with the Enlarge-O-Ray (tm)?

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[AslanC]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Yandar:
AslanC

In the ST III sourcebook by FASA, Spacedocks measurments sre
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My how I miss having this book...I always lose the aucions for i on e-bay



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[Yandar]

AslanC
Don't worry about it, Ive got it when it was in print, I even have the FASA ship construction rules as well though thats a bit dog-eared by now

The ST III book gives stats for the refitted Enterprise, USS Reliant, USS Grissom a Bird of Pray and stats for Spacedock and Regiula 1 research lab. It also includes updated stats for the main crew. It any of u want any of these stats just whistle.

[AslanC]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Yandar:
AslanC
Don't worry about it, Ive got it when it was in print, I even have the FASA ship construction rules as well though thats a bit dog-eared by now

The ST III book gives stats for the refitted Enterprise, USS Reliant, USS Grissom a Bird of Pray and stats for Spacedock and Regiula 1 research lab. It also includes updated stats for the main crew. It any of u want any of these stats just whistle. </font>

Oh I used to have it as well, both in fact, but I wish I still had them

Man FASA Trek is like the only Movie source out there eh?


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[spyone]

Those Regula One stats might be nice .....

In return, I offer ship stats from FASA's Ship Recognition Manual (Federation).

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[SIR SIG]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by AslanC:
Yeah but that one is obviously the same class as Spacedock at Earth by this point right, therefore the station must be huge.

Actually this has always been one of my complaints about Next Gen. Why would they just make the same Space Station only 4 times as big? Seems silly to me...did they just shoot it with the Enlarge-O-Ray (tm)?

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Consider the time difference though.

ST III c. 2284
'11001001' c. 2364

Sure its the same model, just a upgraded class.

Maybe they buit a large one at Earth to? Not that we've seen SpaceDock since the movies.


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[Steve Long]

Given that we've seen Spacedock-style space stations large enough to handle the Galaxy class in episodes, it seems unlikely to me that Starfleet would leave the first, namesake, such station -- the one orbiting Earth! -- so small that it couldn't accomodate many of the 2360s-era ships. Instead, they'd get rid of the small one and build one to the newer, larger scale; or gradually upgrade and expand the original.

Given the availability of large industrial replicators, it doesn't seem to me like it would be that difficult to create a newer, bigger Spacedock. Leaving the station around Earth too small to be of significant use wouldn't do anyone any good (unless perhaps Starfleet kept it for use as a museum or backup facility).

Steve Long

[SIR SIG]

I'm in full agreement

80 odd years is plenty of time to build/upgrade to a new large style station.

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