To those who don't seem to like ENTERPRISE, a rant

[The Highlander]

Originally posted by REG
But what is true Trek? Is it moving forward? Isn't that what Captain Archer is doing, even though he is doing it at a different time period?

Is it the new aliens? Of the 150 member species that makes up the Federation, do we know all 150 of them? Can we recognize them by sight?

Is it the lack of the Prime Directive?

Or is it the new technology? Something that Roddenberry prefers to avoid, making the story more crucial to the audience.

Please I want to know. Maybe after 30 years of my existence on this planet, I may have forgotten all about it. The only recollection I have about make Trek tick is the "human adventure." Perhaps I am just reciting those two words, because I have forgotten what that really means to me. Please refresh my memory. I thought that the "human adventure" is a timeless theme. It does not matter when it happens: the future, the past, even now.

REG, you and I more than likely are thinking the same way. I think what bugs some of the nay-sayers about ENT is that it doesn't seem to resemble the Trek series that have come before. It's not easily recognizable, and to some, that's a source of irritation.

But that's okay.

Like that thin, big-lipped fella from England once sang, "You can't always get what you want . . ."

[The Highlander]

Originally posted by Thundergod
And one minor note...Highlander, I think it was you...It takes some big anti-matter pods to call Don 'Bubba'.

Well, to paraphrase a certain song by AC/DC:

"Some people say that I've got the biggest anti-matter pods of all . . ."

[Thundergod]

Its that whole temporal cold war. We loose it and archer and enterprise will never exist. Then they can do what ever they want. Get it ...its okay...you can watch it, just under no circumstance watch the last episode. Trust me on this one, enjoy knowing it wll all be unraveled in the end.
You see the Enterprise is much too advanced, Vulcans much too controling. Someonewill stop this whole thing Iknow it.
Hell it was probably me in that temporal chamber!

[The Highlander]

Originally posted by Thundergod
Its that whole temporal cold war. We loose it and archer and enterprise will never exist. Then they can do what ever they want. Get it ...its okay...you can watch it, just under no circumstance watch the last episode. Trust me on this one, enjoy knowing it wll all be unraveled in the end.
You see the Enterprise is much too advanced, Vulcans much too controling. Someonewill stop this whole thing Iknow it.
Hell it was probably me in that temporal chamber!

Naaahhh. . .

IT WAS ME!


BWWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!



(Boy, that felt good. . .)

[erhershman]

My response to the hundreds who have taken the time to register their complaints about ENTERPRISE on these forums:

GIVE IT A REST! IT'S ONLY BEEN FOUR EPISODES, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!

No show in my memory has done terribly spectacular in the first season, not even TNG. (Geez, remember "Justice?")

I totally agree with Highlander that we should all give this new show a chance. I personally am enjoying it very much, and do not feel that it is overly similar to any of the other Treks.

After all, if it weren't at least a little bit like the previous four shows, would any of us watch it? We watch it because of the things we've always loved about Star Trek.

[Phantom]

Now, now. No need to shout.

[Thundergod]

Yeah whats that all about. Heck if we just gave it a rest we wouldn't have anything to say. We'd just be resting. I can't agree with Reg and Highlander, but thats cool. It takes Matter and Anti-matter to get warp drive. conflicting ideas force us to think stand and second guess our convitions. They make us stronger and better.
No rest giving in here buddy. Unless it becomes hostile, this is a good place to put your logic and debate to the test.

[The Highlander]

Originally posted by erhershman
My response to the hundreds who have taken the time to register their complaints about ENTERPRISE on these forums:

GIVE IT A REST! IT'S ONLY BEEN FOUR EPISODES, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!

No show in my memory has done terribly spectacular in the first season, not even TNG. (Geez, remember "Justice?")

I totally agree with Highlander that we should all give this new show a chance. I personally am enjoying it very much, and do not feel that it is overly similar to any of the other Treks.

After all, if it weren't at least a little bit like the previous four shows, would any of us watch it? We watch it because of the things we've always loved about Star Trek.

Well, thanks much, erhershman, I appreciate the support. . . just turn the volume down some, okay, bubba?

And you do have a valid point -- the first season for a series is always difficult; it's not going to strike gold right away...

[The Kurgan]

Originally posted by erhershman
[B]My response to the hundreds who have taken the time to register their complaints about ENTERPRISE on these forums:

GIVE IT A REST! IT'S ONLY BEEN FOUR EPISODES, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!

Methinks ya haven't gandered at most of the posts in this thread. We're not debating the aired eps much at all. We've been talking primarily about the show's setup and it's differences with established canon. The show so far, as has been aired, is pretty spiffy, but does differ drastically from what was previously considered official Trek history. Nobody here is doing any real slamming, I think. Mostly a friendly (thank God) discussion on the continuity flubs inherant in the premise.

No show in my memory has done terribly spectacular in the first season, not even TNG. (Geez, remember "Justice?")

Hey! Whaddabout Nowhere Man?!?! heh heh. I LOVED that show!

After all, if it weren't at least a little bit like the previous four shows, would any of us watch it? We watch it because of the things we've always loved about Star Trek.

I'd watch it. In fact, I'd prefer it if it were 'officially' something else. Being Trek only got my attention and got my hopes up.

[The Kurgan]

Originally posted by The Highlander


Halle-freakin'-lujah!

That, oh nemisis of mine, is exactly the answer I've been looking for!

Now I get it! I honestly do!

Y'know, for a blood-thirsty, Immortal-murdering savage, you're not bad. . .

Now, I believe we have an appointment somewhere, you and I. . . bring your favorite toy, and I'll bring mine. . .

(walks away whistling "A kind of magic" . . .

Heh heh heh. It's moments like this I hear a little female voice, slightly electronic in origin, mutter a subtle, "Glad to be of serviiiiicccceeee...." Let's see if ya catch that reference.

And Highlander, don't lose your head.

Nuns. No sense of humor...

[prophetsteve]

My response to the hundreds who have taken the time to register their complaints about ENTERPRISE on these forums:

GIVE IT A REST! IT'S ONLY BEEN FOUR EPISODES, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!

If I have complains about Enterprise I am gonna voice them, no matter how loud you shout and rant. Because I voice them doesn't mean I hate Enterprise, in fact I rather like it. There is no way I will sit like the fanboy and eat up everything Trek serves me without comment.

I have praised Enterprise on several occasions but if I don't like Enterprise choice of direction I will not make some ludicrous exuse for them, I will state my displeasure.

Its my own opinions here and I state them for debate - I appreciate opposing viewpoints and some of them have changed my mind about Enterprise. I just ask you and everyone else that disagrees with me to just be civil about it.

As soon as you become rude, I pay little attension to your argument. For instance I have not really read much after the passage quoted above. If you have a point to make, make polite and compelling, not rude and forceful. Then people will then not treat you like a Troll, which some people might after reading that message.

See, here is a dissenting viewpoint without bold text and with little or no exclamation marks or cheapshots. It can be done and makes the TrekRPG boards a much more civil place to discuss in.

[Thundergod]

Okay guys I think he's got it. That troll remark is getting close...I dont want this thread locked down.
Now I want everyone to say how cool Tuckers' pregnacy was....


yes....?



No you can't can you. Because it was a LAME, poorly written, porrly directed, poorly thought out episode. "Spocks brain" comes to mind, or any episode that features Deanna Troi. Is this a Jake sisko episode, or a Chacotay boxing match? Are we gonna just assume at this point that there is hope for our little ship Enterprise, or are we gonna say that Trip episodes suck by defualt.

I think I like the boxing episode better, at least the actors were upset about having strange aliens in side them.

Maybe Tirp hadn't seen Aliens...I get nervous with the pre natal peroid of a life form is in an implanted host. Wouldn't it bother you if I stuck my unborn child in you neck or something?

I think the nay sayers have just scored a point. Thanks Trip for the fantastic "what if a guy got pregnant" episode, And B&B thanks for glossing over the serious issues of a sexual nature to put out your candy coated saturday morning cartoon show.

[REG]

Now I want everyone to say how cool Tuckers' pregnacy was....


yes....?



No you can't can you.

Wow. You never let me answer. Trip's pregnancy was cool and interesting. It would have been better if he had carried it to term (unless someone by the name of Laura Goodwin is ranting about the lack of abortion as an option for Trip; which is a valid point but not enough to accuse the show of being "pro-Christian" ... but that's another story).