Tomorrow's Lexington

[ghosty]

Originally posted by Captain Zymmer

Okay that works, what if the Lexington was attacked ferrying Ambassador spock to a treaty negotiation between Romulus and Vulcan? The Romulan government specifically states that they will allow any ship other than the Enterprise to be the ferry.

Sela and two Tal Shiar Warbirds attack, somethng happens and they shoot into the future...a future where war with the Romulans is going poorly?

Isn't Spock still on Vulcan? Well he could have been extracted during the Dominion War...part of the deal the Romulans made with the Federation, fine we'll fight in your war but take that meddling Vulcan away or we will kill him..

So in the interim, Spock's underground friends gain sufficient votes in the Senate to force the Praetor to open talks with the Vulcans...well could work.

But even if the lexington goes back, can it tackle two Tal'Shiar Warbirds on its own. Future Lexington can't give them advanced weapons...it'll pollute the timeline...so you're still stuck in a conundrum...paint yourself in a corner and try to get out

[Captain Zymmer]

Originally posted by ghosty
Isn't Spock still on Vulcan? Well he could have been extracted during the Dominion War...part of the deal the Romulans made with the Federation, fine we'll fight in your war but take that meddling Vulcan away or we will kill him..

I don't know if it was ever said, but as far as I know, he is still on Romulus...DS9 experts?

So in the interim, Spock's underground friends gain sufficient votes in the Senate to force the Praetor to open talks with the Vulcans...well could work.

Or Spock himself, as the Preator is like the Roman emperor who accepted Christianity.

But even if the lexington goes back, can it tackle two Tal'Shiar Warbirds on its own. Future Lexington can't give them advanced weapons...it'll pollute the timeline...so you're still stuck in a conundrum...paint yourself in a corner and try to get out

Not if the Enterprise was nearby, expecting trouble, but arrived too late. She slugged it out for a bit with the Romulans, but then retreated and the war was on.

Now when the Lexington returns you have two Soverign's and a possibility of other Federation ship's on the way...could turn against the Romulans, who flee, but have revealed their duplicity.

Many ramificatuions could result from this

What do you think?

[ghosty]

Don't write the deus ex machina into the scenario let the PCs win this one on their own (although you can save it for when the PCs really screw up).

Alternatively, one of the Warbirds could have followed the Lexington through the temporal anomaly and get clobbered by the future Lexington which leaves only one Warbird which I think a well handled Soveriegn can clobber without assistance. Now the implications of all this is that you may just cause a Romulan Civil War...which could lead to your dark future anyway...

Although he does not know it but Captain Zymmer has entered the Twilight Zone (cue errie theme song)

[Captain Zymmer]

Originally posted by ghosty
Don't write the deus ex machina into the scenario let the PCs win this one on their own (although you can save it for when the PCs really screw up).

Alternatively, one of the Warbirds could have followed the Lexington through the temporal anomaly and get clobbered by the future Lexington which leaves only one Warbird which I think a well handled Soveriegn can clobber without assistance. Now the implications of all this is that you may just cause a Romulan Civil War...which could lead to your dark future anyway...

Although he does not know it but Captain Zymmer has entered the Twilight Zone (cue errie theme song)

Okay good point, the Enterprise is there for when my players throw down the "Allies" card from the Whimsy Deck

As for the Civil War, my long term goal is to bring the Romulans into the Grandalliance. Now I already havea break away Klingon goup called the Imperial Klingon States (yes I love FASA) who will get a boost when the Klingons agree to allow Starfleet to patrol and protect Klingon space as a part of another story...this leads to even more dissident Klingons breaking away, so there will be some Klingon bad guys as well

Certainly they would get help fr4om Romulan disidents who object to Romulus eventually joining the Grand Alliance...

Always with an eye to the future of my game it seems

[ghosty]

IMHO the Romulans are already part of the Grand Alliance, together the three superpowers of the Alpha/Beta Quadrant had fought and defeated the Dominion/Cardassian/Breen alliance. Nothing brings allies closer together than total wars for survival (take Britain and the United States for example)...I presume what you mean is an alliance akin to the Fed/Klingon alliance where the alliance is less than formal, more give and take than the formal treaty bound type of alliance that the Feds currently have with the Romulans.

I like the Imperial Klingon States idea too and it'll make a good santuary for the Klingon houses who had sided with the Duras family during the Klingon Civil War (I had previously thought that the IKS would be the smooth browed TOS Klingons but obvious that got scuppered by Blood Oath... )

Anyhow good luck and good hunting Zymmer, let me know how it turns out...I'm sure everyone would like to know.

[Michael Barratt]

As far as I understand, the DTI only show up to "fix" time meddling. So how about this: They pick up that someone changed something on board the present day Lexington, and show up in the future Lexington to stop that change.

To make it really interesting, you could take aside your best role-player and have them take on the role of their future self - having come back, and taken the place of their earlier self - in order to stop the death of someone wonderful, or to kill someone awful that the Lexington saved in a mercy mission - and that awful someone led to years and years of war later...

DTI would be trying to figure out who did what, and the crewmember from the future could have brought tech with him that makes him "unscannable" by the DTI agents from the future, while the present version of himself is in stasis somewhere.

The Doc

[Commodore 2]

At the rate this is going, the only fix for the overall problem maybe a certain unpaid scientific advisor from Gallifrey that can save the day.....lol

[Captain Zymmer]

Originally posted by Commodore 2
At the rate this is going, the only fix for the overall problem maybe a certain unpaid scientific advisor from Gallifrey that can save the day.....lol

You laugh, but I still plan to do the crossover some day

[ghosty]

Originally posted by Michael Barratt
As far as I understand, the DTI only show up to "fix" time meddling. So how about this: They pick up that someone changed something on board the present day Lexington, and show up in the future Lexington to stop that change.

To make it really interesting, you could take aside your best role-player and have them take on the role of their future self - having come back, and taken the place of their earlier self - in order to stop the death of someone wonderful, or to kill someone awful that the Lexington saved in a mercy mission - and that awful someone led to years and years of war later...

DTI would be trying to figure out who did what, and the crewmember from the future could have brought tech with him that makes him "unscannable" by the DTI agents from the future, while the present version of himself is in stasis somewhere.

The Doc

Its always difficult to play a future/alternate self of a character and it also involves the GM disclosing a little more information to him that the PCs should know from the start. Works fine on TV but its difficult to role-play...

[Captain Zymmer]

Okay but what causes the Lexington to get shot through time?

This is what I am having a hard time figuring out now.

[Michael Barratt]

Originally posted by ghosty


Its always difficult to play a future/alternate self of a character and it also involves the GM disclosing a little more information to him that the PCs should know from the start. Works fine on TV but its difficult to role-play...

I've had success with this sort of character before in a D&D Campgain (it's a real frustration for a player to be a 13th level wizard pretending to be a 5th level one...) - but I'd only trust one or two of my players with it. Had one crewmember in my USS Perseus campaign who was a Cardassian undercover agent, medically disguised as a human - that was fun. I'm a big believer in my players tho - your mileage may vary...

The Doc

[Captain Zymmer]

Okay so the plot goes like this...

The Romulans agree to enter trade talks and cultural exchange with Vulcan. Ambassador Spock, will travel to a neutral meeting place (Khitomer? Nimbus III?) to represent the Reunification movement within the Romulan culture. The Romulan government has agreeed to allow any ship, other than the Enterprise be the ferry. The USS Lexington is called up to bat for the job.

En route they recieve a distress call from a merchant ship, claiming to be under attack by pirates. Following intersteller law, they respond (if they balk, former Captain Spock will insist). Once there they find the gutted ship with minimal lifesigns left...as they begin beaming survivors over, two Tal Shiar loyal Warbirds (one commanded by Sela) decloak and begin hammering the Lady Lex.

Some how a temporal rift is opened, and the Lex and one Warbird (not Sela's?) are shunted 20 years into the future.

Arriving on scene they encounter a future Lexington. The Warbird tries to flee but is dispatched by the future ship and then the talking begins.

For the past 20 years, following the loss of the USS Lexington, the Federation/Klingon Alliance have beena t war with the Romulan Empire. Billions are dead and the Alpha Quadrant is in chaos.

Due to the Temporal Prime Directive the future Lexington Captain is against letting the other Lexington return.

OKay that is all I have.

Stuff that needs to be answered.

1] How do both ships get sent to the future?
2] What ways can the Lexington crew convince the future crew to let them return to the past?

Any other questions that need to be answered?

[Michael Barratt]

Ooh! I like.

One argument is that the hole in time was unnatural, or at least, was the result of disruptor/phaser fire. It was an accident that led to this timeline.

That said, the future Lex isn't gonna care: "History records you never returned." Maybe you can use an "out" with an El Aurian from even *further* in the future: an agent of the DTI who pops up to say that "this isn't right," in the same vague way of Guinan, and who traced one end of the temporal disturbance to this future time period.

Turns out that Sela knew damned well that the Romulan disruptors tuned the way they did would shunt the Federation ship into the future. She was counting on it - hoping to get Spock out of the picture (because, surely, in the future the Romulan-vs-Federation war she is trying to start will end in her favor and they can blow the ship out of the sky in the future whenever it turns up! Her arrogance playing through here.)

So, then the player crew, with a slight bit of help from the El Aurian, have to get back to their present time and stop Sela, who has moved on now to blast the peace conference to dust... with maybe the Lexington of the future chasing *them* trying to stop them from doing so...

Oog. Timetravel nosebleeds.

The Doc

[Captain Zymmer]

Originally posted by Michael Barratt
Ooh! I like.

One argument is that the hole in time was unnatural, or at least, was the result of disruptor/phaser fire. It was an accident that led to this timeline.

That said, the future Lex isn't gonna care: "History records you never returned." Maybe you can use an "out" with an El Aurian from even *further* in the future: an agent of the DTI who pops up to say that "this isn't right," in the same vague way of Guinan, and who traced one end of the temporal disturbance to this future time period.

Ohhh Ilike that

Turns out that Sela knew damned well that the Romulan disruptors tuned the way they did would shunt the Federation ship into the future. She was counting on it - hoping to get Spock out of the picture (because, surely, in the future the Romulan-vs-Federation war she is trying to start will end in her favor and they can blow the ship out of the sky in the future whenever it turns up! Her arrogance playing through here.)

A bit too contrived for my tastes, simply said she planned to ambush and destroy the ships, at the same time that a fleet of Warbirds appraoched the conference sight to blast it to dust, thwe players inadvertently learn this in the fututre and rush back to stop it with advanced knowledge maybe?

So, then the player crew, with a slight bit of help from the El Aurian, have to get back to their present time and stop Sela, who has moved on now to blast the peace conference to dust... with maybe the Lexington of the future chasing *them* trying to stop them from doing so...

Oog. Timetravel nosebleeds.

No kidding.

[ghosty]

I recall in the Time Travel Sourcebook they mention that the Romulan Quatum Singularity Engines have the ability to destabalize time due - it is after all an artifical black hole so who knows what its effects are - remember that episode when the Romulan quantum singularity engine was breaking down and it caused time to stop.

Well in any case, the point is that what if there was a third Warbird which attacked first and the Lexington's quantum torpedo (I hope she has them) ruptures the intermix chamber and when one qunatum field meets another well...boom instant time travel...think about it...all you need to do is blow up one Romulan ship...