Best and Worst TV shows (non Trek) (SPOILER)

[silverthorn]

This will cover any TV shows (except Trek) not just Sci-Fi.

My choices are as follows:
BEST
1) Farscape: The bees knees, the muts nuts.
2) CSI: The knock-down, drag out best show on at the moment.
3) Stargate SG-1: Granted I'm only up to Season 3 but it's still great.

WORST
1) Smallville: Utter garbage. In it's defense made almost watchable by waiting for Lex to go bad.
2) Law and Order: Boring.
3) The New Adventures of Superman: Almost as bad a bastardisation of the Superman story as Smallville.

Just out of interest (mostly because I don't like thinking about Smallville and this is driving me nuts), In the Smallville episode about the old lady who can see the future, what does the old lady see in Lex's future after she sees him as president? Channel 4 decided to cut what, presumably happens after that and I'm guessing that didn't kill her.

[Greg Davis]

Well, I can't really list the "worst" shows, as I don't watch the shows that I don't like, but I don't pay enough attention to them to be able to rate which ones I dislike the most.

As to what I like, my choices, in no particular order (and excluding Trek shows), are:

- ER (still a favorite, despite "iffy" character changes and development over the past couple of seasons)

- West Wing (in my opinion, the best show on television)

- Smallville (I guess I'm in the minority here, but I think it's an interesting, fresh look at Superman, without being preachy, like so many other Superman incarnations)

- Beat the Geeks (a gameshow on Comedy Central, which occasionally guest stars a Star Trek geek)

- Justice League (the new Cartoon network version)

There are other shows that I like to watch, occasionally, but these are the only real shows (other than Enterprise) that I make an effort to see every week, either as they air or by taping.

As to the Smallville episode with the farseeing lady, I can't recall what she sees after seeing Lex as the President, but I think it had something to do with lots of death and destruction. I could certainly be wrong though.




Greg

[AslanC]

Best
That 80's Show
Denis Miller Live
Daily Show

Worst
Enterprise
Earth Final Conflict
Everything else on TV that I don't watch

[Perrryyy]

Best
Mutant X
Andromeda
Witchblade

Worst
The Chamber
EFC
most sitcoms

[Kirbinator]

Best
Jag
Andromeda
Stargate SG-1

Worst
Enterprise
EFC
Beastmaster

[Greg Davis]

I've deleted my original post here, as it's what contributed to my starting a thread about Enterprise that I have summarily deleted for personal reasons.

For those that have interpreted my words as "bashing" those that don't like Enterprise, that was not my intent, nor was it my attempt to provoke people to retaliate in what would have been deemed to be "in kind".

That's all from me, on this topic...


Greg

[AslanC]

Originally posted by Greg Davis
I thought that this thread was about TV shows other than Star Trek?

Well I thought the fact that it wasn't called Star Trek: Enterprise made it fair game

Also, I think the 1st season of TOS kicks Enterprise's ass, IMHO

[Phantom]

Best

Mutant X (haven't seen too many eps but I like what I see)

24 (same as above, I always seem to miss it. Hope they put it out on DVD I should have a DVD player by then.)

SG-1 (By far the best sci-fi on TV)

Andromada (second only to SG-1)

West Wing (again missed most of this season, but liked the first.)



Worst

Black Scorpion (yeah, I actually watched one episode

Beastmaster

Tracker (Adrian what happened?)

Entrerpise (It isn't ST so I can mention it here.)

I know there are many more for the bomb list, but I seem to have mind blocked them out so I will leave the list as is.

[Lt.Khrys Antos]

Well here are my personal choices:

Best;

1) SG-1: Best sci-fi around and some of the best characters ever.

2) Smallville: Don't know why, but I like it.

3) West Wing: The only drama I like! I usually despise the fact that it has no action although this one grabs my attention.

4) C.S.I.; My brother made me watch one and I've been hooked ever since-ever the re-runs are interesting!

Worst;

1) Enterprise: No comment

2) Andromeda: I despise Kevin Scorbo(sp?) to the core. One of the most awful character I have ever had the displeasure of seeing on T.V..

3) Mutant X: Lousy special effects and woody acting kill this show. And it had such potential...

[REG]

BEST

• Smallville (so far, I like how the story is going)
• C.S.I. (always like drama with intelligence, particularly mystery)
• Stargate SG-1 (better than Enterprise without using a ship)
• Sir Arhtur Conan Doyle's The Lost World
• JAG
• The District
• Third Watch
• Crossing Jordan (something about Jill Henessy, makes a good Vulcan or Romulan)
• Buffy the Vampire Slayer
• Alias
• Dark Angel
• The West Wing (anything to advance the liberals)

WORST

• VIP (The only blonde bombshell that turns me off)
• Tracker (makes Adrian Paul look dumb)
• Special Unit 2 (forget this)

Initially, I like Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda and still like it so far, but I am wary as to what direction the show will head now that famed DS9 producer Robert Hewitt Wolfe has departed from the show's production. According to Sorbo, he wanted an action-oriented show, and that Hunt will no longer quest to have the System Commonwealth restored to her former glory.

Sadly, it is doomed to be "just another sci-fi show." I am going to relive that past 3 years I had with Voyager in a different show with Gene Roddenberry's fingerprints tainted with the executive producer's clueless direction.

At least Braga is not an actor.

P.S. The old lady psychic saw deaths and destructions in Lex Luthor's future. As if that's a shocker...

[Phantom]

Special Unit 2? (shudder)

Only good thing about that show:

"This calls for RED ammo."

"You ever use RED ammo before?"

"Once, on an apartment building."

Otherwise, it is so bad it didn't even make my worst list.

[Doug Burke]

I honestly have to say that that sequence was the best scene in any smallville episode I've seen just because it was so well planned and filmed... The imagery was just amazing.

You saw the opening, Lex in a white suit in the oval office. It then shifted to Lex standing a huge field of flowers. He touches one to smeel it and this causes a cascade effect of all the flowers rotting away to ash in an ever-widening circle. Then it starts to rain. Within moments, Lex (and his nice white suit) are stained crimson from the blood falling from the sky. And, to make it more dramatically appropriate, Lex never found out what she saw because that was when she went. Thus fulfillign her own prophecy to Clark.

::shrug:: I dunno. I wish I could craft a scene so well.

[Robbert Raets]

Best:
C.S.I. - One of the best series I've ever seen

Chicago Hope - hey, I'm gonna be a doctor some day, too!

Scrubs - I liked it after only seeing the announcements, actually watching an episode made me a die-hard fan.

the West Wing - Finally a human president of the USA!

Farscape - Best sci-fi I've seen in a long time. I mean, SG-1, DS9 and Voy each have episode in which they really shine, but not as much as Farscape, I mean look at the cliffhanger! "You have got to be kidding me...." it just rocks - okay this is turning into a rant isn't it?

[Robbert Raets]

worst:
VIP - Pamela Anderson just plain SUCKS!!

Sheena - the invincible female warrior thing is getting old, guys....

MTV Jackass - sorry people, but what's so funny about this?

Translated versions of 'the Weakest Wink' - I just don't see why they're getting away with trying to clone Anne Robinson; you just can't copycat a game show host's personality!

Same thing for 'Robot Wars' - Hey! Look at how much people watch the BBC when this is on! Let's throw our imagination out the window and steal it!

*sigh*

Also, I forgot 'Sex Sense' on Discovery Channel (Europe) in the best category.

[Doktor Evil]

My shows :

1-Whose Line Is It Anyway (with Drew Carey)
2-South Park (most right-wing, anti-pc show on TV, even though its creators didn't intend it to be)
3-Iron Chef

Honorable mention to the Drew Carey Show.

Can't stand :

-West Wing (liberal propaganda at its best)
-Ally McBeal (upper-class feminist propaganda at its best)
-Earth Final Conflict (just a bad show)

(dis)honorable mention goes to Law and Order in the New York-style liberal propaganda dept. I especially liked the "gun control" show where the cops find a cache of arms and say "take a picture and send it to Charlton Heston". Not only was that really classy, but subtle as well...

In the sci-fi category, I'm at odds with most people here; Farscape, SG-1 and Andromeda aren't my cup of tea. Especially Andromeda: on Saturdays I can watch up to 3-4 different episodes and 2 weeks ago I did just that. Sorry, but it plained sucked. Maybe I hit 4 bad eps in a row, I don't know; but if what I have seen is representative of the whole series, then

Oddly enough, I do enjoy Enterprise, and I find that many Voyager episodes don't suck at all... I think that the segment of Trek with the highest amount of suckiness ever must have been the first seasons of TNG and DS9.

Oh, and for francophone Montrealers, you gotta hate "La Fureur". Veronique Cloutier would be selling shoes at Aldo at minimum wage if it weren't for her "parvenu" father.