View Poll Results: Size of the Federation

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  • Very Large: 19% Galaxy explored (TNG: The Dauphin)

    1 2.22%

  • Large: 10000/8000 ly across/area etc (enc/FirstContact)

    23 51.11%

  • Realistic: 1000 ly diametre

    13 28.89%

  • Small: 200+ ly Bajor area-DSK7 (DS9: Trials & Tribulations)

    6 13.33%

  • Very Small: Bajor-Earth 50.3 ly / Earth-Qo'nos 4 days

    2 4.44%
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Thread: MAPS:Debate 1: Size of the Federation

  1. 03-12-2002, 11:54 PM #46
    qerlin
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    Originally posted by SIR SIG
    Infact I already have a new map in progress

    That shows the relationship between Earth and Bajor and the DW.

    I could post a prelim if anyone is interested???

    Especially when Bajor is but a scant 4 or so sectors away from Earth.

    ps: As many have seen before, I make the most out of the material to hand with the reality of an Astonomical background. In some cases YMMV!
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  2. 03-13-2002, 07:09 PM #47
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    I'll see what I can whip up tonight c. 10hrs from now

    Possibly just a small map here or perhaps the current work on my mapping yahoo group.
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  3. 03-13-2002, 08:16 PM #48
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    Re: sigh...

    Originally posted by Phoenix
    On an unrelated note, is the "First Federation" independent from the "United Federation of Planets", or are they now part of the same political body "The Federation"?
    The First Federation made it's first and only appearance in the TOS episode "The Corbomite Manuever". Based on the one example ship seen there, it possesses a technology considerably in advance of the Federation's best. At the end of the episode, a beverage called "Tranya" was mentioned, and this beverage has been mentioned in a number of DS9 episodes. From this, one might speculate there is some limited contact between the First Federation and the UFP. But they are not part of the same polity.
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  4. 03-14-2002, 03:46 AM #49
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    Sir Sig, what is the name of your Yahoo group, I forgot to BM it.
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  5. 03-14-2002, 05:52 AM #50
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    Okay here's my current work, quickly jazzed up with some rough politcal borders.

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fedsiz...302%20copy.JPG

    The star names and postions are highly accurate using current stellar data (except of course the 'made up' Trek stars ).

    Most of my maps are based on the notes I took whiile studing the DS9 DW Battlemaps sometime ago. And thus reflect the approximate positions of DS9 and surrounds from those said maps and DS9:TM.

    eg. Bajor-Cardassia 5.25 ly

    and SB 375 - Core Worlds 50.3 ly (Bajor-Earth 50.3 ly or even 70.3 ly for core worlds; wasn't going to work in the close proxcimity sector arrangement from the DS9 DW maps)

    Thus an overview distance for Bajor-Earth is app. 105.8 ly reflecting:

    Bajor - SB 375 app. 36 ly (35.5 ly)
    SB 375 - Federation Core Worlds (outer limits) 50.3 ly
    Fed Core Worlds - Earth 20 ly (20ly radius core worlds area)

    Have fun and tell me what you think
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  6. 03-14-2002, 09:15 AM #51
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    Well, I sure like the overall arangement of the stellar powers. In particular, the Gorn/Romulans/Fed coming together fits my long-running game.... the one reason I held back from showing the "Stellar Cartography" map to my players was because I'd have to give up Outback Sector.
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  7. 03-14-2002, 01:51 PM #52
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    Looks pretty good.
    "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

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  8. 03-16-2002, 06:00 AM #53
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    What only two replies?

    No thoughts or changes or ideas people wish to mention?

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  9. 03-16-2002, 12:00 PM #54
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    I kinda liked the Gorn and Tholians in the same general area near the Klingon space. Otherwise, most of it is close to where I kinda thought it should be.
    "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

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  10. 03-16-2002, 10:22 PM #55
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    "What only two replies?

    No thoughts or changes or ideas people wish to mention?"

    Well, since Yahoo Groups is currently down for maintenance (15-16 March) and probably won't be up 'til tomorrow, you'll have to pardon us for not commenting on something we can't access, SIG.
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  11. 03-17-2002, 04:31 AM #56
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    As always Owen, straight to the point!

    I was unawares of the Yahoo Groups downtime.

    Although feel free to comment when you can actually see the map
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  12. 03-17-2002, 04:34 AM #57
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    Originally posted by qerlin
    I kinda liked the Gorn and Tholians in the same general area near the Klingon space. Otherwise, most of it is close to where I kinda thought it should be.
    Care to shed some light on why you prefer the Gorn and Tholians to closeby to each other and Klingon space Qerlin?
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  13. 03-17-2002, 08:26 AM #58
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    Well Yahoo Groups is back up, so try the link and tell me what you think.

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fedsiz...302%20copy.JPG

    I've already had some interesting feedback on somethings so please add to the list
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  14. 03-17-2002, 11:37 AM #59
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    I like it. Much more conceise.

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  15. 03-17-2002, 02:01 PM #60
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    Originally posted by SIR SIG


    Care to shed some light on why you prefer the Gorn and Tholians to closeby to each other and Klingon space Qerlin?
    Guess mostly 'cause I figure the original Enterprise spent a lot of time in the same general area of space. At warp 5 at the cruise speed, they couldn't have gotten around as much as the D.

    And didn't the episodes happen close to each other (I think...)
    "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

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