Wait a minute.

[Phantom]

I just finished watching "Relics," and something occured to me. How did they beam Cmdr Laforge and Capt. Scott of the Jenolan at the end of the episode? The Jenolans shield were at full strength, granted nothing compared to a starship, but it should have been enough to hinder beaming if it could keep the doors of the Dyson Sphere open.

Continuity error, or what?

[StyroFoam Man]

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[Doktor Evil]

watching Space huh? I enjoyed even more Way of the Warrior Part 1 that came after.

That's odd, I had the exact same thought about the shields in Relics. Either the Enterprise had the shield frequency, or they beamed through a shield's "window", or else the Jenolen's shields were too weak.

[tonyg]

The "offical" asnwer, according to the production crew, is "we oopsed!".

[Phantom]

Yeah, that's what I thought.

Moving along now.

[Phoenix]

If you want a non-canon, but fully capable, answer- The Jenolan's shields were starting to collapse (I think something to that effect was mentioned in the episode), in the time between the shields going off and the actual door to hull connection the Enterprise was able to beam the two officers off the soon to be crushed (like an empty beer can) Sydney-class ship. Other wise, just keep repeating to yourselves, Trek-based shows need a new editor, to catch the little mistakes.

[tonyg]

Other (unoffical) exmplantions....

1) THey matched the shield modulation of the Jenolan. It's been done to beam through shields in the past (Like at Farpoint Station). Usually I can't be domne in combat, but that's probably some sort of safeguard to prevet an enemy from doing it.
In fact, during the creation of series 2/TNG it was proposed than the new Enterprise would have tranporter "antennae" that would be outisde the ship's shields and be usuable with shield activated. The idea was to show how the new ship was imrpoved over the old, as the shield/transporter problem was a common one in TOS. This idea got used at least once in the series (during the pilot episode) before it got dropped because of the story possiblities of having the crew cut off from the ship.
Narrators could assume that TNG ships have such devices, but that they retract for safety in combat.


2) They used a shield window. THe Jenolan, being an older ship has more than newer ships. O'Brien did this to get aboard the Phoenix.

3) Newer tech can beat older tech.

4) Scotty worked another "miracle".

[Liz Not Beth]

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[Owen E Oulton]

Easiest solution? Pinpoint timing. Note that the two torps hit one after the other. The first one takes the shields down; O'Brien (or whoever was on transporter duty) is already scanning the coordinates and as soon as the sheilds go out, the dematerialisation cycle begins, with no safeties as it's an all or nothing proposition; and the second torp takes the ship out, all in the space of a second or so. The chances that it'd work? About the same as Scotty's original jury-rig on the Jenolan's transporters: astronomical. Let's face it, though, O'Brien was as much a miracle worker as Scotty.

[tonyg]

Owen,

Same seems to be ture for any technically ordieted character in TREK. I think as far a Star Trek is concerned, Clark's Third Law holds true. And those who work with magic, might as well be working miracles.