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"Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens."
-Gimli, son of Gloin (The Fellowship of the Ring)
Not bad. The plot was on the weak side, but the characterization of the Vulcan abassador was good -- showed not all Vulcans are nasty & arrogant.
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I really liked it. For some reason it just worked well for me. In some ways it reminded me a little bit of "Journey to Babel".
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I enjoyed it. Especially the character of V'Lar.
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Overall I liked it.
But the Vulcan combat vessel sort of goes against the grain. TOS and TNG often stressed that Vulcan ships were not armed, and that Vulcan's were adverse to violence.
I don't see that in Enterprise. These Vulcans are very human.
Hey, even Vulcans have to escort ships occasionally. You don't think they're going to send science vessels to protect ambassadors?Originally posted by tonyg
But the Vulcan combat vessel sort of goes against the grain. TOS and TNG often stressed that Vulcan ships were not armed, and that Vulcan's were adverse to violence.
I don't see that in Enterprise. These Vulcans are very human.
"Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens."
-Gimli, son of Gloin (The Fellowship of the Ring)
I've heard that a number of times, but I'd like to know just where in TOS or TNG people get that from. Because nothing I remember from either series suggests that Vulcans went about the galaxy unarmed.Originally posted by tonyg
But the Vulcan combat vessel sort of goes against the grain. TOS and TNG often stressed that Vulcan ships were not armed, and that Vulcan's were adverse to violence.
The closest I can think of is Spock's statement from "Journey to Babel" that "Vulcans do not approve of violence". However, he then goes on to say that "Given a reason, my father is quite capable if killing. Logically and efficiently."
My only complaint with this episode is its pacing.
It seems that the series wants TOS action but with TNG pacing.
From my perspective, TOS was always faster paced with constant action and events.
TNG was more prodding, with more introspective moments than TOS.
Enterprise likes a lot of action but it seems to follow the formula of TNG.
Maybe B&B need to look more at DS9 for a model rather than TNG. Then again, I find I like my sci-fi more two-fisted than introspective.
However, this is all my opinion.
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I felt this was a good episode. The Vulcan ambassador seemed to me to be the closest they've come to (what I believe) the Vulcans should actually be like. The captain of the Vulcan ship (admittedly seen only briefly) also seemed to ring true. It had some nice elements of humor (after T'Pol prepped everyone for the Ambassador, it turned out to be unnecessary, for the Ambassador had done her homework about human culture, as one might expect of a diplomat).
The story was solid, right down to the final scenes (they really should do more with John Billingsley, he's one of the better actors in the cast).
Agreed. It doesn't hurt that they got a first-rate actress, Fionnula Flanagan, to play V'lar. We get to see that she doesn't entirely trust humans, but she's intelligent enough to judge Archer outside her preconceptions.Originally posted by Fesarius
The Vulcan ambassador seemed to me to be the closest they've come to (what I believe) the Vulcans should actually be like.
I enjoyed the episode. We get more of an idea of the kinds of things Vulcans are up to in the galaxy at large, and that T'pol is older than we might have thought. Plus I love Vulcan ship designs.![]()
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