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    I have cobbled together a list of Federation memebers for the TOS era and thought I try to get some feedback and some Ideas for missing members.

    First off, let me say I am workig on the old assumtion that there were 45 members at the start of TOS.

    Secondly, the list is not yet complete and also molds to my personal time line, which is still floating in my head some place.

    Thirdly, it is a combination of several sources mainly LUG, FASA, Starfleet Year One, The Worlds of the Federation and marval comics ST: Untold Voyages series.

    So here it is by order of joining;

    1 Alpha Centaurie – 2161
    2 Andoria – 2161
    3 Earth – 2161
    4 Teller – 2161
    5 Vulcan – 2161
    6 Arbaza – 2162
    7 Dedderai – 2162
    8 Delta – 2162
    9 Dopterius – 2162
    10 Rigel V – 2162
    11 Sauria – 2162
    12 Vobilin – 2162
    13 Alpha III – 2163*
    14 Vega IX – 2164*
    15 Cait – 2181
    16 Catulla – 2185
    17 Deneb IV – 2186*
    18 Marcos XII – 2186*
    19 Tiburon – 2190
    20 Izar – 2191
    21 Rigel II – 2200*
    22 Rigel IV – 2200*
    23 Trill – 2200
    24 Antos IV – 2209
    25 Aldebaran – 2216*
    26 Edos – 2219
    27 Ardanna - 2224
    28 Merak II – 2227*
    29 Argulius II – 2230
    30 Betelguese – 2230
    31 Daran V – 2237*
    32 Beta Ophiuchi – 2241
    33 Lira – 2245
    34 Aurelia – 2249
    35 Cygnet XIV – 2251
    36 Rigel VII – 2255
    37 Mantilles – 2257*
    38 Axanar – 2258
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    44 Medusa – 2265
    45 Coridan III – 2266

    So how about it?

    [This message has been edited by Eric R. (edited 04-07-2000).]

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    Originally posted by Eric R.:
    I have cobbled together a list of Federation memebers for the TOS era and thought I try to get some feedback and some Ideas for missing members.

    So how about it?
    Nice work. Do you think it is possible to document where you got each one's date of admission? It'd be a handy one page printout in my binder pointing me to my library o' stuff if you could tell me where to look up more info.


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    Cool

    Alright I'll try to give some notes on my list here a chance to see how my mind was working on it.

    The founding five (Andor, Alph Centaruie, Earth, Teller and Vulcan) were easy enough to get; so many sources so little time.

    The next seven, while four of them anyways (Abarza, Dedderai, Doperterius, Voblilin) were mention in passing in Chapter three of Starfleet Year One as worlds contacted about joing the Federation so I assume that they were just trading partners and outside of the tighter alliance between the 'five' so it took a little longer to decide joining.

    In the same book it is mentioned that a dozen worlds had been contacted I was left then with three more worlds needed, Rigel was obvious, in The Worlds of the Federation it is mentioned an indigineous race existed on Rigel V, further the tortise like beings seen in TMP have been called Rigelians for years and there is a Rigel character in Year One so One down.

    Having seen no reference to an entry date for Sauria I decided to put them in here too. Same goes for Delta. Hence these two are the only non referenced worlds in the "Lucky Seven" as I call them. (Lucky Seven coming from the fact that the Council waved the lengthy admission process for them to join to enjoy the status of the title of co-founders of the Federation. [my own time line event])

    Mainly the rest came from three pricipal sources, LUG's time line, Star Trek Maps as figured out by me from James Dixons "monster of a" Chronology, and FASA. From there I figured out the relationship between those members and other events occuring in the time line.

    Of course several had to be just plian judgement calls such as Trill, Lyria, Rigel VII and Medusa. I worked by establishing a frame provided by Star Trek Maps then added a date here, move one there and so on making sure it made sense above all else.

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    Hi guys,

    I have a bit of an uninformed question to ask you guys.

    I've never heard of Starfleet Year One. Could someone fill me in on this please?

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    Starfleet: Year One is a chapter-by-chapter novel by Michael Jan Friedman, I believe situated just after the Federation is formed. Year One can only be found by reading EVERY Star Trek novel from Pocket Books since, I think, last fall. Some chapter are repeated in diffrent novels of diffrent lines (ie: TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, and NF) so if people only by s specific line of novels, they won't miss a chapter. I personally haven't read any of these chapters, mainly because I don't 'connect' with it because there are no characters we know and love, but I do know that the latest chapter, chapter 8, can be found in either Book I or II of the Deep Space Nine: Millennium mini-series, FYI, seems to be a good from-the-grave series, but I've only read 2 of 3 of the books.

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    FIY - I was unsure about Rigel VII so I did some checking.

    According to the ST Encyclopedia, Rigel VII was involved in a conflict with Pike's Enterprise crew, which resulted in the death of his friend and yeoman in 2254.
    I'm not entirely sure about this, but it doesn't seem to me that they'd be a Federation member world in 2255.

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    For the sake of completeness, which worlds are colonies of one of the original Fed Members? Would Deneva fill one of the higher number blanks in your list? Unlike Mars, there is some reference that Deneva's a UFP member.

    And just to get it out on the table, what's wrong with Mars being a member of the UFP? I understand the concern with loading the vote by one species with several worlds as members, but doesn't that just mean that the high pop homeworlds have a lot of sway over the way the Council votes? Sounds like the basis for a political discussion of some sort, perhaps based on underrepresentation of the colonies and tarrifs that favor the industrialized worlds at the expenses of the colonial worlds. (Friendly jab follows--not an invitation to a flamewar!) Perhaps some of our UK posters could comment on the results of a home/colony political discussion like this?

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    Sinclair wrote,

    "FIY - I was unsure about Rigel VII so I did some checking.
    According to the ST Encyclopedia, Rigel VII was involved in a conflict with Pike's Enterprise crew, which resulted in the death of his friend and yeoman in 2254.
    I'm not entirely sure about this, but it doesn't seem to me that they'd be a Federation member world in 2255."

    I took from marvels Star trek Early Vogages #3 there account of the events on Rigel VII which were this. Rigel was about to join the Federation the Enterprise had come on an offical vist when the Rigelians where celbrating the last of a centuries long annual "ho down" for lack of a better word. The Khyler are portrayed here as being a select group of pround warriors who have resisted Rigels admission but have lost the battle so to speak.

    Pike with a lovely Rigelian princes sneaks away to a deserted castle the one we see in the cage where a trap has been set. In fact the whole issue then deals with an effort by extreme conservative elements to stop Rigels admission. These events occured right before "The Cage" which happen in 2254 from that I gained a year to completely resolve the situation. But resolved Rigel's admission was assured. much like what LUG did with Katarian membership in the Federation in TNG.

    Howard: I too feel that in TNG era Mars is a full member of the Federation but at this time it is still growing and getting its feet underneath and it wont be till Utopia Planitia is built that Mars becomes a force/colony to deal with for memebership. Denevea is a good selection I will keep on the side till the Movie source book comes out in the summer which I have a feeling will change some of my dates. (Thats why I wont pronouce this list done till then.)

    I have also gone back (up) and marked all memebers that where former colonies with a *.




    [This message has been edited by Eric R. (edited 04-07-2000).]

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    we just might get a canon take on this oh, say, this fall?

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    I am not really familiar with most of the sources you mentioned. I compiled my own list of possible member races in the TOS era a while back, based on LUG chronologies, the canon Star Trek Chronology, and TOS episodes. It is very incomplete, and without membership dates,but here goes:

    Humans, Centaurians, Andorians, Tellarites, Vulcans, Axenari, Tiburons, Deltans, Ardanites ("the Cloud Minders"), Argelians ("Wolf in the Fold"), Cygnians (I forget the episode, but definitely mentioned), Coridani ("Journey to Babel", and Betelgeusians (LUG Players' Guide).

    Antosians and Rigellians are both mentioned in TOS episodes, but LUG lists them as being non-member allies of the Federation, which doesn't contradict anything I am aware of, and makes sense in that some such must exist.

    I created two races based on glimpses and mentioned worlds: the Antareans and Sirians.

    This is only 13 to 15 members actually described, leaving some 30, or more, to be created by individual narrators!

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    Figure a few of the members might be colony worlds, as well; so no new races, but different planets (i.e. Ejul Thelni for the Andorians, etc...)

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    For the record, as one of the Timeliners working on the Official Pocket Books Star Trek timeline, we have placed the events of Starfleet: Year One in 2161.

    As for info. on Year One for those interested, check out this URL: http://www.psiphi.org/cgi/upc-db/XSTS000001.html courtesy of my friend David Henderson.

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    Don't know if you've seen it, but Bashir has posted a similiar list + templates over in Questions.

    Both are superb lists though!

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    Bwahahaha... this only adds some logs to the fire. Now I'll be looking for templates for all those species TOO! BWAHAHAHAHA!

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but the original list brings up an interesting discrepancy:
    The Trill. When they were first introduced in TNG, wasn't it said that they were a recent member of the UFP, and no one knew about the fact they were a joined species?
    Admittedly, that canon got blown apart by the DS9/Dax backstory, but I was just curious about people's interpritations about the discrepancy.

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