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    Miranda-class Light Cruiser

    My first foray... the Miranda-class as first built (i.e. in the late 23rd century):

    Miranda-class Specifications

    Production Data
    Origin: United Federation of Planets
    Class and Type: Miranda-class Light Cruiser
    Year Launched: 2274

    Hull Data
    Structure: 30
    Size/Decks: 5/11 decks
    Length/Beam/Height: 278/174/65 metres
    Complement: 220

    Operational Data
    Transporters: 6 Standard, 6 Emergency
    Cargo Units: 55
    Shuttlebay: 1A
    Shuttlecraft: 5 size worth
    Tractor Beams: 1FV 1A
    Separation System: None
    Sensor System: Class 3 (+5/D)
    Operations System: Class 4 (E)
    Life Support: Class 4 (E)

    Propulsion Data
    Impulse System: Type V (.75c) (D)
    Warp System: Type Va (Warp 5/6/8) (D)

    Tactical Data
    Phaser Arrays: Type VII (x2) (B)
    Penetration: 4/3/3/0/0
    Photon Torpedoes: Type II (x2) (B)
    Penetration: 4/4/4/4/4
    Deflector Shield: Class 3 (B)
    Protection/Threshold: 14/3

    Miscellaneous Data
    Maneuver Modifiers: +2, +1, +1
    Traits: Enhanced System (Sensors +2)

    The ubiquitous Miranda-class is one of the most versatile and long-lived vessels ever produced by StarFleet. Designed to fulfil a requirement for a multi-role cruiser at the same time as the U.S.S. Enterprise was undergoing her revolutionary refit, the project benefited from many of the same innovations. The Mirandas proved to be much more adaptable to new roles and technology than their older counterparts, and spawned several variant designs (notably the Soyuz- and Avenger-classes). Recommissioned examples refitted with modern technology such as pulse phasers served with distinction a century later during the Dominion War.

    The standard Miranda was designed with exploration and patrol duties in mind, and packs a sophisticated sensor package, based on that designed for the Constitution. In keeping with a less prominent defence role, the phaser complement was scaled down, although the ship still packs a fearsome long range punch with its fore-and-aft torpedo tubes. As Khan Noonien Singh proved in 2285, when he hijacked the U.S.S. Reliant and nearly destroyed the Enterprise, the Miranda could be a formidable opponent in combat.

    The version presented here is the vessel as it would have appeared in the 2280’s. Progressive refits and newer construction vessels gained faster drives and more powerful tactical systems.

    Hope you like it! Comments and critiques are invited...
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    Good work!

    Now it would seem that all the major ships that have appeared in the TOS movies have been "stated".
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    Originally posted by Doktor Evil
    Now it would seem that all the major ships that have appeared in the TOS movies have been "stated".
    Not quite - but I just posted the B'rel

    Anybody want to build a work bee?
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    Originally posted by Imagus
    Anybody want to build a work bee?
    Too bad I don't have the NG with me right now.

    Okay guys, before anybody beats me to it I'll call dibs on the work bee.

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    Not quite - but I just posted the B'rel
    Aslan C did one : http://forum.trek-rpg.net/showthread...&threadid=4443 but it is the TNG-era version.

    I'd love the see your design for the movie era
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    Originally posted by Doktor Evil
    I'd love the see your design for the movie era
    Mine is at http://forum.trek-rpg.net/showthread...&threadid=4504.

    Looks like Aslan made some different assumptions from me. Mine is smaller and has better quality systems. His has more firepower!

    Take your pick!
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    Looking at my model of the Reliant, I notice that it has the phaser banks on its saucer section like the ones on the Enterprise. That should give you at least 3 more phaser banks (or 6 if you want to count dorsal and ventral as separate banks). Of course different sources give the refit Constitution class a few more weapons, phasers on the bottom of the engineering section and aft firing photorps. Just something to give the old ships a little more punch.
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    Originally posted by Antonsb214
    Looking at my model of the Reliant, I notice that it has the phaser banks on its saucer section like the ones on the Enterprise. That should give you at least 3 more phaser banks (or 6 if you want to count dorsal and ventral as separate banks). Of course different sources give the refit Constitution class a few more weapons, phasers on the bottom of the engineering section and aft firing photorps. Just something to give the old ships a little more punch.
    Pardon me here for a moment...this is a lost argument...I've tried it and the scars still have that "just Quantum Torpedoed" smell. I agree with you by the way, but it appears that we are in the minority here. I built both a Reliant and an Enterprise class (CODA system) from the various blueprints I own (following the rules and various suggestions) and they both had more firepower than the CODA-version of the Galaxy Class. Of course once I re-built the Galaxy Class (the same as the other ships) from the "official blueprints" it evened out.

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    It's been said before and I guess I get to say it again. The number of phaser arrays and torpedo launchers shown in the stats for this game are not meant to be an accurate representation of how many physical weapons arrays the ship has. If they were, then they would be wrong on every ship in the Narrator's Guide.

    Coda Starship Combat is not meant to be a Tactical simulation, like Spacedock or the old FASA starship combat game. It is meant to be an abstraction of space combat that more seamlessly melds with the role-playing experience.

    If you are planning to increase the number of weapons to match those actually on the models, then you'll also have to scale up the shields to better protect against the ungodly penetration values you'll be getting. Plus, you'll have to rework structure. If you change structure, you'll have to change system damage as well. And there's probably other things I'm missing...

    Now, I'm not saying that's wrong. It's your game, do what you want to with it. But keep in mind that you're in essence forcing the system to be something it wasn't designed to be.
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    Exactly!

    I based my version of the Miranda off of the refitted Constitution, based on stuff I'd seen on the movies and various books. I tried to imagine what its designed role was and took it from there.

    It's obviously not a heavy warship, the Connie is much bigger, so I designated it a light cruiser (about the only thing I'm not sure about - it could be just a cruiser), and dropped the size to 5. It's being used for highly detailed research work (looking for ANY trace of life), but it's also a military vessel (firepower) so I figured it has good sensors as a matter of course - hence I added the Enhanced Systems, so that they're the very best for the period. Basically what you've got is a wartime command and control vessel, designed to work well in the centre of a destroyer or cruiser squadron, and optimised for specialised peacetime research missions.

    Weaponswise, we know it's got good torpedo capacity, we saw that in TWOK, but to me, the fact they fire in both directions should account for the x2, not the number of tubes, so I assumed they were weaker systems - outcome, comparable OV. From this point, the refitted Connie (a CH) has an x4 on phasers, but a CL should be considerably weaker and the Miranda already has comparable torpedoes, so the phasers suffered. Again, my take is that this is weaker systems rather than less emplacements. Space was also a factor here.

    Just a brief insight into the mind of a designer...

    Oh, and what's the matter, Darth? Scared of big words?
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    Originally posted by Imagus
    Oh, and what's the matter, Darth? Scared of big words?
    Depends on how many vowels there are.
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