Romulan Client States

[HHirl]

The Way of D'era says that there are alot of Client Races in the Romulan Empire, in fact it further says that the non-Romulans can gain citizenship by fulfilling the Serona (Warriorship, 5 years duty with the military) and than undergoing the Pylanazi (Citizenship):

These are some present and past Clients that I have found. Does anyone know of anymore or have created anymore?

Gentaran
Nausicaan
Pselliad
Palmian
Tarquin

Since these clients can become citizens would they be on Romulan Space ships?

[Erik Filean]

Originally posted by HHirl
The Way of D'era says that there are alot of Client Races in the Romulan Empire, in fact it further says that the non-Romulans can gain citizenship by fulfilling the Serona (Warriorship, 5 years duty with the military) and than undergoing the Pylanazi (Citizenship):

These are some present and past Clients that I have found. Does anyone know of anymore or have created anymore?

Gentaran
Nausicaan
Pselliad
Palmian
Tarquin

Since these clients can become citizens would they be on Romulan Space ships?

I would say yes. However, I would expect a very strong glass ceiling (glass? how about transparent aluminum!), with most non-Romulan citizens consigned to lower ranks, backwater postings, and/or low-security assignments. I certainly wouldn't be showing non-Romulan ship commanders or full-fledged Tal Shiar operatives, and non-Romulan department heads are probably a one-in-a-thousand proposition.

[Polanski]

There was a Next generation Episode with a human serving in Romulan Navy ...

[Dan Gurden]

Yep. That certainly was a human on a frontline Romulan vessel. An exStarfleet defector no less, what kind of security checks must he have gone through to get there. Which also raises the possibility of Vulcan defectors?

I can see the Romulans being a little more racist in their front line. Using the Star Wars, Empire as a model. The vast majority of their navy will be Romulan, and any client species will be relegated to either support roles or canon fodder. Imagine squads of Nausican shock-troops... Most commonly non-romulans on Front line vessels will be 'similar' to Romulan, or offer a great leap in ability that is otherwise unavailable. (ie; Starfleet defectors as Tactical advisors). And entirely unheard of in the senior naval command structure...

But like the Empire, a Highly skilled individual could rise beyond the limits set by his species, such as Grand Admiral Thrawn... Becoming more powreful than many of their contemparys by the diffiult climb up there.

And lets also not forget that we alsonow have the Remans as a potential client world (dependig on the new movie).

[Erik Filean]

Originally posted by Dan Gurden
Yep. That certainly was a human on a frontline Romulan vessel. An exStarfleet defector no less, what kind of security checks must he have gone through to get there. Which also raises the possibility of Vulcan defectors?

I can see the Romulans being a little more racist in their front line. Using the Star Wars, Empire as a model. The vast majority of their navy will be Romulan, and any client species will be relegated to either support roles or canon fodder. Imagine squads of Nausican shock-troops... Most commonly non-romulans on Front line vessels will be 'similar' to Romulan, or offer a great leap in ability that is otherwise unavailable. (ie; Starfleet defectors as Tactical advisors). And entirely unheard of in the senior naval command structure...

But like the Empire, a Highly skilled individual could rise beyond the limits set by his species, such as Grand Admiral Thrawn... Becoming more powreful than many of their contemparys by the diffiult climb up there.

And lets also not forget that we alsonow have the Remans as a potential client world (dependig on the new movie).

In addition to the Galactic Empire model (which I think is a good one for regulars in the Romulan armed forces), one could adapt the Roman auxiliary model from the early empire: shock-troop or other "expendable" or "low-utility" units made up of client species under native command and organization. I have the thought of using that kind of military clientization in a game to give the Romulans a lasting presence without having constant Neutral Zone incursions going on. I just haven't decided whether I want to use Nausicaans for this or develop a new client species for the role.

[Phantom]

Originally posted by Dan Gurden


And lets also not forget that we alsonow have the Remans as a potential client world (dependig on the new movie).

Speak for yourself. AFAIC a Reman is a Romulan from Remus. Not some Nosferotu reject.

[Kerlof]

In addition to the Galactic Empire model (which I think is a good one for regulars in the Romulan armed forces), one could adapt the Roman auxiliary model from the early empire: shock-troop or other "expendable" or "low-utility" units made up of client species under native command and organization. I have the thought of using that kind of military clientization in a game to give the Romulans a lasting presence without having constant Neutral Zone incursions going on. I just haven't decided whether I want to use Nausicaans for this or develop a new client species for the role.
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A new reptilian type race would work well...It's what I use, they make great shock troopers/boarding parties etc. The Roman auxilia idea is the way to go, where the subject race
(may) rise to the rank of NCO but where all commissioned officers would be Romulan.

[HHirl]

Do you have a write up on the Reptilian Race? I am trying to get my Romulan alittle more diverse than just romulans.

I agree that the Client races would be auxilery or second class, but there would be a need for a larger base to recruit from than just the Romulans.

I am the XO of the AQSG Romulan Division, the CO of the Federatiopn Simm Group, New/ just forming, and an avide Romulan Fan. I would like to see some other PBeM's and Groups and find out how they operate.

[Kerlof]

Do you have a write up on the Reptilian Race? I am trying to get my Romulan alittle more diverse than just romulans


Yes they are at: http://www.geocities.com/conrois1200/Fed5.html

Just click on the Carnivoran Empire ....

[HHirl]

This is what I have so far from the Way of Dera set and the few LUG books. I think this is all the Romulan Client Species now and those with in the Romulan Sphere of influance. I will make a web page with details for these soon.

Ennarian
Gentaran
Krotarian
Langian
Nausicaan
Noulleroi
N’virii
Othan
Palmian
Pselliad
Pollarian
Reman
Quatellian
Tarquin
Xhuj
Zelvorian

[Phoenix]

Originally posted by HHirl
This is what I have so far from the Way of Dera set and the few LUG books. I think this is all the Romulan Client Species now and those with in the Romulan Sphere of influance. I will make a web page with details for these soon.

Ennarian Gentaran Krotarian Langian Nausicaan Noulleroi N’virii Othan Palmian Pselliad Pollarian Reman Quatellian Tarquin Xhuj Zelvorian

Few questions-
What were the other LUG books?
How much information was given on the species?

If you would like any (non-web) help, lrt me know.

[Dan Gurden]

Originally posted by Phoenix


Few questions-
What were the other LUG books?
How much information was given on the species?

If you would like any (non-web) help, lrt me know.

Off the top of my head, that looks like details from Way of D'era, Fragile Peace and Planets of the UFP...

Does that list include the proto-Klingons from the unreleased material from Steve Kenson, or anything from the Romulan SRM (Steve L always puts a species or two in them...)

From a rules based POV, as most of this stuff is already published, you would need to be careful about what you use. You could probably link the species names with the location of the published material, but I am not sure you could re-print what has gone before. Nothing stopping you from adding to it mind.

[HHirl]

Good Question...

Would it be copy write infringment if I gave LUG credit for the material? It isn't copy write infringment if I use vulcans in my web based pbem campaign???

I just want to try to show the general public that there is more races than just Romulan in the Star Empire. I will not claim credit for anything. I will use the same format as a few other pages and have it written as: Canon, Backstage info, Book Info (LUG or Novels), or Speculation.

The info I now have does come from LUG-the Way of D'era, Fragile Peace and Planets of the UFP.

I will look at the other sources for any more races and give credit where it is due. The Othan are the Proto Klingons from Way of De'ra.

[Dan Gurden]

Originally posted by HHirl
It isn't copy write infringment if I use vulcans in my web based pbem campaign???

From my understanding (but I am not a lawyer) it is not a copyright infringement to use this material for your own personal use... But it would be to publish it.

So using Vulcan in your PBEM is fine, but copying the stats and printed material verbatum from either Way of Kohlinar, Core Rule Books or Players Guide would be...

However notifying the reader where this material was available from is a totally different matter (and in my mind qualifies as free advertising)... I am not sure where all this lies now that the LUG stuff is all out of print.

[Janus]

Dan Gurden wrote

And lets also not forget that we also now have the Remans as a potential client world (dependig on the new movie).

A thought about the Zelvorians. I’ve been reading the Way of D’Era that I recently acquired. I found no description of the Zelvorians. This made me think that perhaps the “Remans” of Nemesis could be adapted to be that subject race. Their original culture lost a long time ago they were shaped by the Romulans to suit Romulan needs, what do you think?