Ship Stats for Orbital Shuttle

[redwood973]

Can anyone direct me to stats for the Orbital Shuttle? If there are no canon stats I would apprecieat a good set of "make 'em ups".

Just out of curiosity; are there any stats on line for TOS shuttles?

Thanks-y'all

[Owen E Oulton]

The orbital shuttle? This is the one with the two F-16 intakes on the bottom and the round-ish radiator fins on the back, seen in the TOS movies?

Hmmmm... Let's see if I remember the main design points of the thing. Crew of two, shown in suits; docking hatch on dorsal surface; appears to have a large cargo compartment. Presumably the two booms sticking out the back are impulse engines, but what the two "scoops" on the underside are is anyone's guess... Let me think on this one for a little bit and I'll see if I can come up with something.

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[redwood973]

This is my take on the Orbital Shuttle (as seen in the Spacedock on ST-III). Please provide input as to being on track as far as canon goes; and your ideas (I have never developed ships stats before and would rather leave that up to those better capable of doing so).

The Mir-class orbital shuttle is a heavy short range passenger and cargo shuttle. It has one computer, no transporters, sensors limited to half light-year. Seats 20 passengers comfortably, can carry 35 if needed.

The Mir-class is equiped with powerfull impulse engines, to both ensure planatary lift-off and relativly fast runs throughout a planatry system. (I was thinking about 0.25 cruising/0.60 sustainable?)

The Mir-class has a heavily reinforced hull and fairly strong shield generators, as the class is not armed. (Shield protection 20; power 20?)

The Orbital Shuttle has a crew of three (a helm/nav.; engineer; and cargo specialist).

The Orbital Shuttles are assigned to major orbital instilations for use as passenger or cargo haulers when use of transporters is unavailable or not recommended. Some facility commanders have appropriated one for their personal use, a personal transport for in-system hops (my intended use).

I assume the class did not prove popular (as it was only seen in the movies). I speculate this was due to its limitation to in-sytem transport. Starfleet did mass produce the Mir-class, lacking any other options, making it the work horse of orbital facility shuttle fleets. Its production was eventually halted, the class being viewed as too limited in its useage to justify the production of further shuttles. The Mir-class development team reworked the Mir design; resulting in a warp capalbe shuttle (the Sydney-class?).

(I named it the Mir-class after the Russian Space Station. I couldn't use the name of the shuttle (Soyuz) that re-supplied Mir, so I used the stations name.)

This is just my thoughts---feel free to ad to or shoot them down. I want your in-put and advise! Thanks!

[Owen E Oulton]

OK, you're talking a completely different shuttle from the one I thought you were - helps if you describe it rather than using names which may or may not be universal...

I take it you actually mean the miniature which was flipped upside down and reworked to create the Sydney Class.

Yeah, your estimates of its capacity seem good, but I don't buy your history... For one thing, simply being a sublight vessel isn't a limitation, any more than the fact that a crosstown bus can't fly a transatlantic route is. Although it has been seen in Starfleet livery, it's also been seen in civilian (NAR hull number) markings. I see it more as a civilian vessel in use by Starfleet. Such a vessel would actually be very useful in major systems doing interplanetary runs.

Why haven't we seen it more often? Well, which series would it really fit into? Bajor isn't a major system, and the Federation presence is limited (or was until the war); and Voyager isn't in the neighbourhood. Besides, the design's nearly 100 years old.

With an interplanetary passenger shuttle, I'd replace the cargo specialist with 2 flight attendants - even a full impulse (.25c), interplanetary flights are going to be a few hours long. A cargo version would likely have a loadmaster (or cargo specialist, if you prefer).

I'd use a name similar to Sydney, though, as a nod to the reuse (and drastic rescaling) of the shooting miniature - Adelaide class, perhaps?

Class & Type: Adelaide Class Interplanetary Transport
Commissioning Date: 2270

Hull Characteristics
Size: 2 (26 metres long, 1 deck)
Resistance: 2
Structural Points: 40

Operations Characteristics
Crew/Passengers (Passenger version): 4/26 [3pwr/rnd]
(Cargo version): 3/3 [2pwr/rnd]
Computers: 1 [1pwr/rnd]
Transporters: 1 personnel [1pwr/rnd]
Tractor Beams: 1 a/v [2/rating used]

Propulsion Characteristics
Warp System: none
Impulse System: .25/.5
Power: 80

Sensor Systems
Long Range Sensors: none
Lateral Sensors: +0/1 light year [4pwr/rnd]
Navigational Sensors: +0 [5pwr/rnd]

Weapons Systems
Type IV Phaser (Starfleet special operations shuttles only)
Range: 10/30,000/100,000/300,000
Arc: All (720^o)
Accuracy: 4/5/7/10
Damage: 8
Power: [8]
Weapons Skill: 3

Defensive Systems:
Starfleet Deflector Shield
Protection: 24/36
Power: [24]

I've given it the same lower end systems as the other small craft, and I figure if the lowly Type 15 shuttlepod can be mounted with Type IV Phasers for "special operations," so can the Starfleet version of this beastie.

Your kilometrage may vary...

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[JALU3]

Why Adelaide? Just wondering . . . any historical vessels by that name? I know that it is a City in Australia . . . but why besides that?

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[redwood973]

Sorry guys. I do mean the funny looking shuttle in Star Trek III (seen inside the spacedock facility), with the funny F-16 intakes on the underside. My ideas I posted were just that--MY IDEAS. Please modify or phaser them down as you see fit. THANKS

[Owen E Oulton]

"Why Adelaide?" 'Cause Melbourne was already in use? Hey, I could've related it to Sydney, Nova Scotia, and called it the Springhill class.

Well, the funny F-16 shuttle is way too small for the description you gave. No way is it a passenger shuttle - the only entrance is a circular roof hatch, the crew is suited which gives the impression of a utility vehicle, and the aft compartment wouldn't seat more than a half dozen.

Let's call it the Bluenose Class (hey, I used to live in Nova Scotia!).

Class & Name: Bluenose Class Heavy Maintenance Shuttle
Commissioning Date: 2280

Hull Characteristics
Size: 2 (13 metres long, 1 deck)
Resistance: 2
Structural Points: 40

Operations Characteristics
Crew/Passengers: 2/none [1pwr/rnd]
Computers: 1 [1pwr/rnd]
Transporters: none
Tractor beams 1 f/v, 1 a/v [2/rating used]

Propulsion Characteristics
Warp System: none
Impulse System: .25/.4
Power: 80

Sensor Systems
Long Range Sensors: none
Lateral Sensors: +0/1 light year [4pwr/rnd]
Navigational Sensors: +0 [5pwr/rnd]

Weapons Systems
Type IV Phaser (Starfleet special operations shuttles only)
Range: 10/30,000/100,000/300,000
Arc: All (720^o)
Accuracy: 4/5/7/10
Damage: 8
Power: [8]
Weapons Skill: 3

Defensive Systems
Starfleet Deflector Shield
Protection: 24/36
Power: [24]

This shuttle is a general purpose maintenance shuttle with no provision for passengers or creature comforts. Although the cockpit is pressurised, crews usually go suited due to the frequency of EVA. Its small (18m³) cargo hold is usually packed with repair materials and tools. It has unusually powerful, but not particularly fast, impulse engines and sports massive tractor beam generators/emitters, enabling it to act as a dockyard tug. Although capable of atmospheric flight, it lacks landing gear and must use a special landing cradle*. For this reason, it is almost always station-based.

* This is based on a shot of it at Starfleet HQ, where it is sitting on a cradle-like structure.

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[This message has been edited by Owen E Oulton (edited 05-03-2001).]

[Dan Gurden]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Owen E Oulton:
* This is based on a shot of it at Starfleet HQ, where it is sitting on a cradle-like structure.
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A shot which, if my memory isn't faulty, has been used as background and scene setting in both 'The First Duty' and 'Home Front', which gives this ship some use in the TNG era too...


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Dan.

"A couple of thoughts from a random mind!"

[redwood973]

What is your opinion on having one modified to serve as VIP transport for a station commander? Checking your stats with what I had in mind seems like that kind of modification would be very extreme!

I like the stats you came up with Owen! Even though I can't use the "F-16 shuttle" the way I had wanted, I'm going to find another way to use it! Thanks! (Have you considered posting these to Utiopia Planitia? You could get any view of the craft you wanted from:

www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/shutug_clydesdale.jpg

The site it came from calls it a shuttle-pod and yard tug (clydesdale-class); any canon to this?

[This message has been edited by redwood973 (edited 05-03-2001).]

[This message has been edited by redwood973 (edited 05-03-2001).]

[Phoenix]

If it's the same bubble/block shuttle I'm thinking of, I've always defined it as a "Yard Tug" a small highly maneuverable craft with the tractor beam assembly equal the that on a cruiser type- as for the funny scoop things--- well did the fins on the old Chevy’s have any real purpose-- but by memory on the appearance, massive forward deflector system? I think the design could have also been used for rescue/salvage type operations. But thats just my take on the design.

[Owen E Oulton]

[i]"(Have you considered posting these to Utiopia Planitia? You could get any view of the craft you wanted from: www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/shutug_clydesdale.jpg

The site it came from calls it a shuttle-pod and yard tug (clydesdale-class); any canon to this?

Nope. This is a scan from one of the Jackill's books, and like most of them bears only a passing resemblance to the actual shooting miniature. There are better, more accurate drawings available...

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