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    Question Is this for real??

    I get some wierd junk e-mail sometimes, but this one takes the cake:

    URGENT AND CONFIDENTIAL
    (RE: TRANSFER OF ($ 152,000.000.00 USD
    ]ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY TWO MILLION DOLLARS

    Dear sir,

    We want to transfer to overseas ($ 152,000.000.00 USD)
    One hundred and
    Fifty two million United States Dollars) from a Prime
    Bank in Africa, I want to ask you to quietly look
    for a reliable and honest person who will be
    capable and fit to provide either an existing bank
    account or to set up a new Bank a/c immediately to
    receive this money, even an empty a/c can serve to
    receive this money, as long as you will remain honest
    to me till the end for this important business
    trusting in you and believing in God that you will
    never let me down either now or in future.

    I am MR,beringo okafor, the Auditor General of prime
    banks in Africa, during the course of our auditing I
    discovered a floating fund in an account opened in
    the bank in 1990 and since 1993 nobody has operated
    on this account again, after going through some old
    files in the records I discovered that the owner of
    the account died without a [heir] hence the money
    is floating and if I do not
    remit this money out urgently it will be forfeited for
    nothing. the owner of this account is Mr. Allan P.
    Seaman, a foreigner, and an industrialist, and he
    died, since 1993. and no
    other person knows about this account or any thing
    concerning it, the account has no other beneficiary
    and my investigation proved to me as well that Allan
    P. Seaman until his death was the manager Diamond
    Safari [pty]. SA.

    We will start the first transfer with fifty two
    million [$52,000.000] upon successful transaction
    without any disappoint from your side, we shall
    re-apply for the payment of the remaining rest amount
    to your account,

    The amount involved is (USD 152M) One hundred and
    Fifty two million United States Dollars, only I want
    to first transfer $52,000.000 [fifty two million
    United States Dollar from this money into a
    safe foreigners account abroad before the rest, but I
    don't know any foreigner, I am only contacting you as
    a foreigner because this money can not be approved to
    a local person here, without valid international
    foreign passport, but can only be approved to any
    foreigner with valid international passport or drivers
    license and foreign a/c because the money is in us
    dollars and
    the former owner of the a/c Mr. Allan P. Seaman is
    a foreigner too, [and the money can only be approved
    into a foreign a/c

    However, we will sign a binding agreement, to bind us
    together I got your contact address from the Girl
    who operates computer, I am revealing this to you
    with believe in God that you will never let me down in
    this business, you are the first and the only person
    that I am contacting for this business, so please
    reply urgently so that I will inform you the next step
    to take
    urgently. Send also your private telephone and fax
    number including the full details of the account to be
    used for the deposit.

    I want us to meet face to face to build confidence and
    to sign a binding
    agreement that will bind us together before
    transferring the money to any account of your choice
    where the fund will be safe. Before we fly to your
    country for withdrawal, sharing and investments.

    I need your full co-operation to make
    this work fine. because the management is ready to
    approve this payment to any foreigner who has correct
    information of this account, which I will give to you,
    upon your positive response and once I am convinced
    that you are capable and will meet up with
    instruction of a key bank official who is deeply
    involved with me in this business.
    I need your strong assurance that you will never,
    never let me down.

    With my influence and the position of the bank
    official we can transfer this
    money to any foreigner's reliable account which you
    can provide with assurance that this money will be
    intact pending our physical arrival in your country
    for
    sharing. The bank official will destroy all documents
    of transaction
    immediately we receive this money leaving no trace to
    any place and to build confidence you can come
    immediately to discuss with me face to face after
    which I will make this remittance in
    your presence and three of us will fly to your country
    at least two days ahead of the money going into the
    account.

    I will apply for annual leave to get visa immediately
    I hear from you that you are ready to act and receive
    this fund in your account. I will use my position and
    influence to obtain all legal approvals for onward
    transfer of this money to your account with
    appropriate clearance from the relevant ministries
    and
    foreign exchange departments.

    At the conclusion of this business, you will be given
    35% of the total amount, 60% will be for me, while 5%
    will be for expenses both parties might have incurred
    during the process of transferring. I will send you my
    all my phone
    and fax
    numbers as soon as you indicate interest in this
    businesses

    I look forward to your earliest reply through my email
    address,

    yours truly,

    Mr beringo
    So has anybody else been offered $18.2 million out of the blue this week?
    Greg

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    This is a scam that has been growing in frequency in recent years, especially with the relative anonymity of email. People from overseas have been using this to bilk money out of Americans and other westerners.

    The best thing you could do is take the entire email, with the complete header, and forward it to the FBI.
    Davy Jones

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    So how does the scam work?
    Greg

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    They key to the scam is to get the victim to provide his account information, and the perpetrator simply wires the cash to his own account and disappears.

    It's extremely hard to trace, partly because addresses are foreign and often phony, and perpetrators drop off the radar very quickly.

    I've always thought about opening a separate account with just $5 in it (I can do that at my credit union), just to see what happens.
    Davy Jones

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    Sea Tyger is right. This is a scam which has grown in recent years. Forward the whole e-mail to the FBI.

    I'm no banker so I don't know how it works.
    "The misery of being exploited by capitalists is nothing compared to the misery of not being exploited at all."
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    Y'know I've received that email about 3 times now in the last year. I just delete it every time. Maybe I should actually forward it to the police instead. I never thought of that.

    "You can't take a picture of this; it's already gone." -Nate Fisher, Six Feet Under.

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    Hey, wouldn't there be a nice scenario idea hiding behind all this?
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    Originally posted by Calcoran
    Hey, wouldn't there be a nice scenario idea hiding behind all this?
    Not within the core of the Federation, but I could see some unscrupulous Ferengi con artists running a scam in the frontier and border regions.
    Davy Jones

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    Oh my, that's it !!!!! (beware of the multiple exclamation marks)
    You've put your finger right on it, Sea Tyger! The net is actually controlled by Ferengis who managed to come here through a spatial distortion or something! That explains the amount of stupidity we keep receiving every day: all the junk mail, spam, and other hoaxes that can't be kept away from our mailboxes. Ferengis, all of them!

    PS: I apologize in advance for all reformed Ferengis who might stumble upon this .
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    Originally posted by Sea Tyger

    I've always thought about opening a separate account with just $5 in it (I can do that at my credit union), just to see what happens.
    Apparently, the con men are way ahead of you. After you provide your name, phone number, and bank name and account number, they ask you to pay an "advance fee to show your willingness to cooperate". If you pay, they encounter problems on their end that require more funds.

    Consumer Reports covered it this month, calling it the "Nigeria scam".
    15.5% of the complaints referred to the Internet Fraud Complaint Center in 2001 were over this scam. 16 of the roughly 2600 complaintants had lost money, a median of $5,575 each.
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    Hm. a group of Ferengi running a "Cardassian Scam" (for Hebitan relics?) out of a border outpost...
    "It's hard being an evil genius when everybody else is so stupid" -- Quantum Crook

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    My account is often in the red anway, so it wouldn't matter too much.

    Thanks for the info, guys. I knew it was too good to be true
    Greg

    "The dreams in which I'm dying are the best I've ever had."
    Madworld, Donnie Darko.

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    Classic Nigerian bank scam

    This scam is rapidly becoming the chief export of Nigeria (and certain other western African nations). It's been thoroughly debunked over at Snopes Urban Legends Page. There, you can also find some links to other reference material (near the bottom of the article).

    It turns on finding a victim who actually believes someone will give them a huge sum of money for doing nothing. Since the scammers send out thousands of these emails for virtually no cost, they don't need to find many victims to make a nice living.

    The way to put this sort of crime out is to share information about it with others, since it can only work when the potential victims are uninformed enough to believe the scammers.

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