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    The Future of the Federation

    Okay...a lot of us seem to play in the DS9/post-DS9 period. My campaign started about a year after the show wrapped and has now arrived at the year 2382.

    When I got talked into running this game I was far from a Trek fan. I liked most of the movies, TNG, and that was that, for me. My group had a bunch of Trek fans, and I had bought the books 'cause they looked nice (and I got a bunch of freebies from S. John Ross -- the greatest kinda-Texican gamer guy around), so I studied up a bit on the DS9 series and set down some ground rules.

    The Federation was the shiny, happy place we see on TV -- but only on the surface. Underneath the platitudes, people were still driven by real emotion and self-interest. I based the government and economic systems on the Soviet Union, with some modifications from othe socialist countries in Europe: it's big, unweildy, and a lot of the branches don't talk to one another. Outside of Starfleet, the Federation is pretty unresponsive. It is, by the stuff in the Price of Freedom, barely a republic; the Federation Council is a bunch of appointees from planetary governments, who elect the executive branch on their own; there is little incentive for professional politicians with this sort of power to bend to the whims of a minority (i.e. the Maquis). There is a two-prong economy -- one of replicators and communistic power/replication rations, the other is the credit system that is used to trade between planets and other stellar powers.

    Throughout the campaign, we have seen a steady disintegration of the Federation's effectiveness -- symptomatic in their piss-poor ability to handle things like the Klingon and Dominion War, but also in events like the Baku incident. The government does what it wants and after giving lip service to personal freedoms and local autonomy, it runs roughshod over them when planets and people go against Federation policy. Several presidents have been removed by vote of no confidence -- mostly due to backdoor deals that have profited them and their administration. Terrorist groups and planet's rights groups are bustin' out all over. They were given a real impetus when it was discovered the key race of the Federation...the Vulcans...were imprisoning political subversives (Sybokites and the VIM) and attempting forced reprogramming to the teachings of Surak. (What can I say..? I like the Enterprise version of the Vulcans -- I've always thought them supercillious poseurs...)

    In 2379, it was discovered the Federation was broke! A massive trade deficit with key member worlds -- Andor and Bolarus IX -- had drained off much of the trade capital of the UFP. To make matters worse, the core worlds are experiencing some trouble with manufacturing enough power to keep the huge amount of replicator/transporter/computer usage going. Even antimatter power production has limits...and think of the amount of heat created by power usage like that...with populations in the 10s of billions, the core worlds are beginning to slowly, but surely, see climactic impacts on their worlds. (Thus the constant need to colonize and push outward, in addition to overpopulation.)

    Sensing weakness the combined forces of the Orion and the Ferengi moved to put out massive propoganda campaigns vs. the Fed, and backed the groups that were increasingly unsatisfied with the way Paris was lording over the whole Federation. Betazed, still ticked from being left to rot during the war (their opinion), seceded from the union. It was followed by several smaller worlds who were able to buy their protection from the Ferengi or Orions. The UFP, crippled by economic problems many could not understand (we use money..? I thought the replicators just spit the stuff out for us and that was it...), let the rebel worlds go, instead of trying to mobilize against them.

    In 2380, the Orion Confederation and the Ferengi joined with several smaller stellar powers and rogue houses of the KLingon Empire, looking to unseat Chancellor Martok, went to war against the Federation. conflict in the Orion Corridor -- the space beyond Betelgeuse -- was swift and brutal. By the time the Starfleet could move reinforcements to back the decimated fleets out of Betelgeuse and Sherman's Planet, the UFP had negotiated an armistice.

    We now see a sudden shift from a centralized government in Paris, to a weaker Federation with the worlds gaining more direct representation and more autonomy. Some of the core worlds, like Andor, have had theri own military forces for some time...this is now becoming an even more common occurance. The comfort of Federation citizens is still assured by the replicator technology, but the acquisition of wealth is now posible against as the Fed economy returns to mometary-based systems -- the credit, backed by latinum deposits. Central to the powers of the Federation are defense and interstellar trade -- the Starfleet remains an entity removed from planetary politics (or so they think).

    Through massive changes, the sudden lack of Federation legal imposition on the local worlds is much lessened and the cultural diversity of the UFP is increasing. The ability of people to seek happiness not just through politically correct ideas of science and art has widened...it includes greed, but we saw plenty of that anyway.

    The big conflict now is the fight between the Federation bureaucracy (not the council) and the local governments. Now only does the bureaucracy not want to lose its power, but they think their ideology is RIGHT...facts not withstanding.

    For the Starfleet guys, there's no real change in their lifestyle...save they get paid. But it represents a whole new thinking -- still utopian, but with much more realpolitik involved.

    Okay...comments?
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    On my personal point of view, this goes straight against my vision of Star Trek - I tend to look at their utopia in the same way as I do with their technology : utterly impossible in our standards, but works wonders on the show . After all, if we have no trouble with transporters or warp travel, we can admit a huge yet quite efficient interplanetary government, can we ?

    Now for some more constructive comments :

    - What is Section 31 doing now ? I think S31 fits nicely with your darker vision of the Federation (in fact, the Federation as seen in DS9 and Insurrection makes your vision quite plausible), and I don't really see them crossing their arms while what they've spent centuries keeping alive at all costs is tearing apart. Or are they just busy getting as much credits as they can to spend the end of their life on Risa ?

    - If StarFleet officers are now paid instead of working for an ideal, this mean they can be bought, especially if their own interests go in favor of the briber (wich is easy if we consider there are some ships where a species is predominant). Seems to me it wouldn't take long before we see the tension between the bureaucracy and the member worlds reflect inside StarFleet - maybe degenerating into full-scale battles between SF starships.

    - How are the other powers reacting ? The Cardassians are probably busy rebuilding themselves and apparently the Klingons have some trouble if there are rogue houses trying to unseat Martok. But how about the Romulans ? If they are not facing similar troubles, I guess they are now rubbing their hands in delight, since this is the best thing that could happen to them. Wouldn't they even be trying to recruit some former Federation members for their Empire ?

    Maybe more comments to come, if I have other ideas.
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    I agree with most of your assesment of the Federation, just not quite so bleakly. I see it more like Rome just before the fall. The cracks are definitly begining to show.

    I still think Starfleeters should still be working for the "ideal." To the remark about SF officers being bought, that has already been established, didn't some group bribe an officer on Risa for information?

    As for the Ferengi-Orion team up, I just don't see them as much of a threat. Ok, the Syndicate is dangerous, but AFAIC the Frenegi couldn't become a competent threat Race if their lives depended on it. Sorry, always thought of the Ferengi as comic relief nothing more.

    If the Federation is short on cash, why not invade Ferenginar? I'd like to see that.

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    A bleak future for the Federation, here are my comments;

    1) The Ferengi as Phantom mentioned aren't very competent as a threat race, you would need something like a Germanic Horde. A lower tech race with adept war skills. I believe the Klingons would be useful. Their chancellor is assassinated (again...), and the major houses go to war over who gets to sit in the chair. They invade some Federation worlds and "buy out" others to form a broader resource base for their shipyards.

    2) You could model the bureaucracy after the Soviet system and introduce political officers into the mix. The Federation being worried about "dissedents" places them on ships and worlds to oversee the populations. They directly answer to a higher officer which answers to another...you get the idea.

    3) If Starfleet officers started getting paid I doubt many of them would know what to do with it. The current one's are still indoctrinated into the utopian Federation while newer recruits would be more "cash-friendly"-would make for some nice conflicts as they disagree on how to proceed with missions.

    4) S31 and FIS could merge. Their officers could start working together to build a new system entirely-one devoted to them only. They could gather information about the Federation and its enemies and sell it to the highest bidder. They could start out as Chekha or the KGB, and turn mercenary afterwards.

    Finally, seems like a dark future. I always liked to use the utopian idea (although I don't agree with it), IMO it makes StarTrek. Altough it would make for a nice contrast.
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    Hmm, isn't this the prequel to Andromeda?

    Qerlin, this is most emphatically not a criticism, but this is the way I had started to imagine your game after seeing your posts elsewhere...

    I think it has a lot of potential - my own view of the Federation is definitely darker than the TNG ideal although not quite to this extreme. I have a cash economy still operating outside the core worlds, which trade valuables between themselves, and operate cashless on the planets themselves. Local corruption and the like is very much a factor in the outskirts of the Federation. And in my movie era series, Starfleet is getting more military as the threat from both Romulans and Klingons increases.

    I'm thinking the others underestimate the Ferengi - they'd never take part in something military, but would fund and arm the combatants if they could benefit. The Federation are after all opposed to a lot of their ideals. Their Daimons would be prone to a lot of opportunist piracy though.

    The Orions would see the whole collapse as revenge for their own economic defeats in the previous century (Corridan, green slavery), and many families would be backing various groups as their own interests lead them. The Syndicate would lose no time in ramping up the black market, and corrupting many local officials.

    The Romulans might come in on the pretext of peace-keeping, especially if the Klingons are involved at all. This could lead to a Romulan military presence in the core worlds.

    Keep Starfleet neutral and idealistic - a beleaguered force trying to maintain the ideals of the Federation against the realpolitik of the day. Younger less idealistic officers get bounced out in kangaroo courts, thus showing the flaws within the traditions of the organisation.

    Definitely food for thought.
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    Thanks for the comments, so far.

    Section 31 -- still ou tthere and causing trouble, but they took a bit hit due to some black bag stuff they were doing that was exposed (creating Borg-style modifications to 'volunteers' and ship as a force to oppose the Borg.)

    The Romulans -- they had a major civil war in the early part of the campaign (strains from the Dominion War). They are currently on better terms (kinda like the US and China today -- still not friends or allies, but not quite enemies) and under a progressive dictator; one of the more successful combat comanders during the war. Their main part in this is in trying to get i tight with the Vulcans -- many of whom have been won over to the Sybokites' logic with passion teachings.

    As for the Ferengi -- I agree with Imagus that they are seriously unrated as a threat. They may not pose a military threat, as such, but their captains are more than willing to accept letters of marque and reprisal from the Orion Cofederacy. Both the Orions and the Ferengi have upgraded their starship tech from salvage culled from the Dominion War. When the Orion War kicked off, Starfleet was surprised to find themselves not faced by ships of older technology, but ones at parity with the latest iteration of Starfleet vessels.

    Starfleet as idealistic -- that's been the way we've been doing things. Good point...

    As for the Klingons, they're a little busy with their own problems.
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    The Orions and the Ferengi

    According to one of Last Unicorn's last publications, All Our Yesterdays, the Orions at one time had a fairly powerful and sophisticated culture. In fact, their "star" has risen and set a number of times over the millenia.

    This would open the door to Orion warlords who have access to very strange and unusual technology -- found and slowly understood, or recovered from "family caches".

    They could use this technology themselves, or trade it to the Ferengi for more conventional arms.

    The Ferengi could become a serious threat in their own right. I imagine there are quite a few unhappy with Rom's "reforms", and in a culture like theirs, I think it's reasonable to assume the position of Nagus has changed hands due to assassination on more than one occasion. Maybe Leeta married Rom just to get close to power...

    Once Rom is out of the picture, the Ferengi point to the disintegration of the Federation as a reason to reject any reforms based on its culture. From there, it's a relatively small step to a militaristic oligarchy. Remember, they're a joke because Berman/Braga/etc. portrayed them that way -- I suspect that might be their comment on capitalism. They don't have to stay a joke.

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    Fes...I hate to say this, but I hadn't thought about ancient Orion tech. Doh!

    As for the Ferengi, I think half of their goofiness is an act. Harder to think someone' screwing you on a deal or prepping to take over if they look like total gits.
    "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

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    Originally posted by qerlin
    Fes...I hate to say this, but I hadn't thought about ancient Orion tech. Doh!
    I love the old FASA idea that the Orions had a lot of old tech, both designed and inherited, but while they could construct it, they had no idea how it worked and couldn't improve it or design new stuff. Hence they had ships that worked perfectly for hundreds of years, and if they tweaked one thing, the whole lot would stop working.
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    Under Nagus Rom and his "trustworthy" advisor Quark (hey lets admitt it after realizing that being brother to the Nagus is better than being Negus itself he would fight to keep his brother in power.) the Feringi are going to move towards the Federation not away. In fact facing the problem of integrating them into Federation Society rather than comfronting them as an advisary has more potential in my view.

    I have always seen the post Dominion War era in terms of the 1920's with the Federation being the British, an empire in the fall of its existence, with summer the first part of the 24th century having passed. The Economic crisis is going to trigger alot within the Federation as I see the Federation having fought the war with its own blood and strength and with Feringi Latnium now its in debt with no way out but to convert to a monetary economy and pay it off. In essence the events you show are decent if paced a bit fast for my taste they should have taken perhaps 50 or more years instead of the 6 which you have played out.

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    So Eric R.... if the Federation is to be compared to the British after WW1, who would be the USA? If they're the Ferengi, then the galaxy will be very different indeed some decades later if we are to keep this example...

    Eeehh... I think I like this idea of a Ferengi-ruled galaxy, maybe not for my series' future, but an interesting alternate universe... a galaxy where all the major powers are still in place and pretending to have kept their various ideals, while in fact the real major power are the Ferengi, who are actually in control of everything because everybody is in debt to them...
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