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    Question Alternate Reality: Dominion Victory

    So here's the million credit question: what if the Dominion had successfully defeated the UFP/Klingon/Romulan Alliance and conquered the Alpha and Beta Quadrants?

    This is a scenario that, thanks to the Dominion War Supplement, I am now able to investigate (thanks Steve and Don!).

    What would the consequences of a Dominion victory be? Obviously the dismantling of the UFP and the Klingon and Romulan Empires, but what about the Cardassians, the Breen, and the various independents (and not so independents) such as the Tholians, Gorn, So'na, and so on? What about the inevitable Dominion-Taurhai conflict?

    Expanding this concept further, what about possible conflicts involving the Borg and/or the Krenim Imperium? Imagine a war involving temporal weapons (with which the Dominion apparently has no experience) or titanic conflicts between massive Jem'Hadar armies and swarms of Borg drones... WOO HOO!

    In my notes, I've considered an evacuation of several planetary populations and tactical retreats deep into Romulan space, perhaps even beyond. I've also considered the partisan forces seeking aid from the Taurhai Unity and other, previously unknown races from beyond the edge of explored space.

    Additionally, I've tossed in some more material involving Voyager having contacted home ("Message in a Bottle"), but never being able to reestablish contact. There's more on this angle, but the information is sketchy at best.

    What would a post-Dominion victory series look like? Would the Founders be unnecessarily brutal, wiping out entire populations (they have a history of doing so)? Would the Cardassians realize that they got screwed and are truly no better off than the conquered races? Would the Breen play a prominent role or would they, too, be relegated to "client species" status?

    Does anyone else have an opinion on this topic? Please post your ideas and let me know.

    mactavish out.

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    Spooky thought...but a good idea for an alternate reality adventure. Hmmm....

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    I think that the Dominion would regulate the Breen into a role like that of the Cardassians toward the end of the role, as witnessed on DS9. The Dominion would only use the Breen to get what they want (victory over the Federation Alliance) and then they would slowly be phased out.

    In terms of Dominion victory, I think that you'd first have to define exactly what that victory would entail. I could imagine that the Dominion would see victory, at least in the short term, as a massive reduction of Federation space, pushing the Federation back to its core systems, and subjegating the outlier Federation systems into the Dominion. Also, I would imagine that a near-complete destruction of Starfleet would be in order, with the remaining ships forming a core "rebellion" fleet, and probably siding with what would remain of the Romulans and Klingons.

    I could also see the Romulan government trying to re-establish ties with the Dominion, to perhaps work out some sort of agreement, through which they would "sell out" the Federation in some way, possibly by revealing strategies, fleet strengths, etc.

    I do agree that it would make for an interesting scenario, and possibly a alternate reality story arc in a series. It would certainly make the players appreciate the Federation victory all the more!


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    Cool

    I've been running such a game. It hasn't got very far just yet. Take a look a my website for more details. http://homepage.ntlworld.com/thunder...minionmain.htm

    Essentially the Dominion won because Sisko failed to get the Romulan's into the war because Garak's bomb failed to detonate. Subsequently the Dominion infected Andoria with the quickening virus and the Federation surrendered.

    Bajor remains neutral , although the Defiant was destroyed. DS9 is under the command of Colonel Kira. The Klingons are still fighting.

    I plan to have the players be the guiding light for the freeing of the Federation. They will learn about the Taurhai, and must unite the Taurhai the Klingons and other smaller factions to free the Federation.

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    One of the sidebars I cut from the DWS was on "Alternate Histories" -- various ways Narrators could change things around. One option was, of course, a Dominion victory, though I didn't go into the subject in nearly the detail outlined above. If I ever get 'round to doing the Dominion War Companion, I'll definitely make sure to include it.

    Steve Long

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    Red face

    I don’t know which is more frightening: the fact that Steve actually cut text from that mammoth manuscript or the fact that he still has enough to talk about to merit another book!


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    Do you really think conquering Alpha and Beta would lead to the Borg? Maybe its an easier path than the distant Sagittarius Constellation? Maybe it will be easier because they gain strength from the conquest of Fed, Rom, and Kling?

    Hey, maybe someone's gaming group could travel back from a Dominion Victory Future aboard a Premonition-class starship and fix things! What do you think Timefleet would think of that?

    And then in the 29th Century, the Dominion invades the Kelvans in the Andromeda Galaxy...

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    I'm writing an adventure for my players (maybe someday I'll try my hand at a module?)

    That involves an alternate-universe dominion war without the Klingons.

    Basically, back in prehistory, Kahless failed to unite Qo'nos, having been killed in a battle that would have been crucial.

    The Klingon Houses continued their infighting with greater and greater ferocity and weapons, until they annihilated each other.

    So the Federation never met the Klingons, but the Romulan and Tholian Empires expanded into their space, the Romulans going far enough to colonize the world that had been Qo'nos.

    So in the present, there was no one to ally with against the Dominion at the start of the war. The Romulans allied with the Cardassians and Dominion, and are crushing the Federation, which has lost two-thirds of its territory, including Bajor and DS9, Betazed, Bolius, Benzar, etc. in a two-front war.

    The minor powers remain largely uninvolved, (except in my universe the Kzin Empire is on the Federation side) but the Federation is making overtures to the Tzenkethi, Talarians, and even the Breen.


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    I ran a scenario in my current campaign set during DS9 series three where the USS Sovereign was propelled into a parallel timeline where the Founders sent a quarter of a million ships through the wormhole about a week before the time of Starfleets first encounter with the Jem'Hadar in order to destroy any threaght from the Alpha Quadrant. The crew only just escaped from the Dominion with the help of a fleet of Federation, Klingon and Romulan ships and fled back to their own reality. All in all a very strange advanture.

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    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Greg Davis:
    I think that the Dominion would regulate the Breen into a role like that of the Cardassians toward the end of the role, as witnessed on DS9. The Dominion would only use the Breen to get what they want (victory over the Federation Alliance) and then they would slowly be phased out.

    In terms of Dominion victory, I think that you'd first have to define exactly what that victory would entail. I could imagine that the Dominion would see victory, at least in the short term, as a massive reduction of Federation space, pushing the Federation back to its core systems, and subjegating the outlier Federation systems into the Dominion. Also, I would imagine that a near-complete destruction of Starfleet would be in order, with the remaining ships forming a core "rebellion" fleet, and probably siding with what would remain of the Romulans and Klingons.


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    It was stated on-screen that the Dominion considered victory to be the total conqering of all civilizations in the Alpha Quadrant (which will be the prelude to the rest of the galaxy)... and the elimination of all life on Earth.

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    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by calguard66:
    It was stated on-screen that the Dominion considered victory to be the total conqering of all civilizations in the Alpha Quadrant (which will be the prelude to the rest of the galaxy)... and the elimination of all life on Earth.</font>
    Well, as we all know, alternate realities provide limitless possiblities!


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    A short time ahead, in a galaxy...well, here.

    It is a period of civil war.
    Rebel starships, striking from a hidden base, have won their first victory against the evil Dominion Empire.

    During the battle, Rebel spies managed to steal plans for the Dominion's ultimate weapon, the DEATH STAR, an armoured space-station with enough power to destroy an entire planet.

    Persued by Jem'Hadar attack ships and Vorta spies, Kira Nerys races home aboard her battered starship, custodian of the plans that can save her people and restore freedom to the Alpha Quadrant....

    Sound like a good seed for a campaign?
    (Wouldn't use Kira, obviously...she was just the first name that sprang to mind - besides, I sense that her hair is somehow wrong...*wierd rumbling sound*)


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    I think that the Dominion had always considered the UFP in general and Earth in particular as their main adversaries and greatest threats. The Romulans and the Cardassians were fairly powerful but easily dealt with, especially after the Tal Shiar/Obsidian Order incident. The Klingons are also fairly impotent if you know how to deal with them-give them a glorious cause and point them in the right direction and let them go! The Martok-Founder had Gowron leashed for what, over a year? Two? The UFP was the true threat, and Earth has always been seen as the symbolic heart of the Federation. Destroy the Earth, and the UFP looses hope. (At least I think that's the reason. That, ansd the show is watched by us Earthlings)
    My 2 cents.

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    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by verbena76:
    Destroy the Earth, and the UFP looses hope. (At least I think that's the reason. That, ansd the show is watched by us Earthlings)</font>
    I don't think the Federation would lose all hope if Earth was wiped out. The humans might lose morale, but the Federation as a whole would keep on fighting the Dominion to the last man.
    An alternate-universe Dominion victory series could focus on resistance fighters trying to drive the Dominion from the Alpha Quadrant. The people of the Federation are stupid enough to try something like that, you know.



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