Star Trek: Andromeda

[PGoodman13]

Soran led something of a rougher life, though, and that might have contributed to his more advanced age appearance.

[ghosty]

Originally posted by AslanC
Which is all great deterants to them simply avoiding your adventure and trying to go back in time and prevent this new present they are in

The idea is to not have them jsut slingshot aorund the nearest sun and change the past

BTW, how have ou been, missed you around here

Remember that Andormeda episode where the crew thought they could stop the Battle of the Horsehead Nebula and save the Systems Commonwealth only to find that their intervention was required only to ensure that "history" as they knew it came true. That's how I'll resolve any attempts by PCs to monkey around with time travel.

[Imagus]

Originally posted by ghosty
Remember that Andormeda episode where the crew thought they could stop the Battle of the Horsehead Nebula and save the Systems Commonwealth only to find that their intervention was required only to ensure that "history" as they knew it came true. That's how I'll resolve any attempts by PCs to monkey around with time travel.

You can have a lot of fun with plots like these - I ran a Champions game once where the players went back in time to stop something happening only to find that their actions caused it. You do need to be able to think on your feet when running this kind of ep though.

My thoughts on the whole thread (a wonderful idea similar to one I'd thought about myself ):

The crew should be 50% 24th century, 50% 27th (or whatever). This has two effects - the first is culture clash - lots of nice Starfleet morals vs modern pragmatism arguments. The second is a built-in anti-time travel clause - half the PC's will cease to exist if history is changed - and should be very aware of it.

If you are still worried about time travel, you could ensure that there are plenty of reasons why the "slingshot effect" was abandoned (perhaps something similar to the Warp 5 limitation). Other temporal phenomena are hard to predict. Of course, the Guardian of Forever is a possibility - but where is it? Did Starfleet keep its location a secret? Perhaps it's gone missing (hint: plot hook ).

Borg = Magog - this was the one thing I couldn't figure out from the Trek-Andromeda connection - thanks! So why hasn't the Alpha Quadrant been assimilated? My thought is that 'Pale Moonlight' took place after the Voyager had been lost and so the sequence runs roughly:

Voyager lost.

Sisko and Garak try to trick Romulans into war.

Romulans find out and refuse to help.

Dominion War fought to a standstill - Sisko/Prophets intervention closes wormhole, but Federation government collapses under economic strain.

Loss of PC ship.

Voyager thwarts Borg expansion into the Alpha Quadrant, but is lost in process. Borg take centuries to rebuild transwarp network.

300 years later - the PCs are back and the Borg are about to arrive. (Borg worldship anyone?)

Of course then you have to have a reformed Borg priest as a player character

[Capt.Hunter]

I agree the Borg (or the 8472s) shouldn't be used casually. Unfortunately, I couldn't think of something that could seriously collapse all of the major powers in the area at once (you need to take out the Romulans and Klingons too, or at least fracture them so they're not a cohesive force - apart from the Magog, the most powerful group on Andromeda are the Neitszcheans, and they're a pretty fractious bunch).

[Capt.Hunter]

Actually, I did have an idea for a virus that infects highly advanced tech. It destroys all the big, advanced ships, leaving the races to rebuild with TOS-era technology. Into this comes the super-duper Fed ship from the past (the virus has burnt itself out so it's not a threat to the PC's ship)...

[tmutant]

Another thought, based on TOS. The Andromedans. At the time of the TOS episode, it took them 500 years to reach the Milky Way. That means 600 (more or less) years of technical advancement by a malevolent race in the Andromeda galaxy. They may be able to build artificial wormholes now. They could show up, and start fighting everybody, and winning. At least it could work as a Borg/Magog substitute.

[Cybrludite]

Originally posted by Capt.Hunter
Actually, I did have an idea for a virus that infects highly advanced tech. It destroys all the big, advanced ships, leaving the races to rebuild with TOS-era technology. Into this comes the super-duper Fed ship from the past (the virus has burnt itself out so it's not a threat to the PC's ship)...

Sort of like Traveller: New Era, with the AI Virus.

[ghosty]

Why are we trying to shoe horn the Trekverse into the Andromedaverse. I think the whole point is to strand a small crew of Starfleet officers in a dark future where their whole belief structure is completely destroyed. There's no need to put every element of Andromeda into it.

If you do that, then you might as well play a RPG in the Andromedaverse and not waste time trying to find parallels between the races in Andromeda and Trek.

[Dan Stack]

I agree that the goal for such a game would be to use Andromeda as an inspiration, much like I've used elements of Call of Cthulhu for some of my Trek games.

There does reach a certain point where you are no longer being influenced but have rather transplanted. In which cases, it is probably better to use the original genre.

[Kirbinator]

Perhaps nemesis starts a chain of events that lead to the demise of the Federation.
Lets say after (what is rumored to happen in Nemesis) the Klingons take advantage of the Romulans situation and attack and conquer them, the Federation offers humanitarian aid to the Romulans, The Klingons take offense to this (like in "all good things..." which eventually leads to conflict between the Federation and the Klingons which more or less wipe each other out...

[Liz Not Beth]

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