Hey, CODA is just an ICON ripoff!

[Calcoran]

All right, this is not really aimed at the "CODA is just d20 in disguise" advocates, but rather ... I don't know, I just felt the need to get utterly silly for a minute or two .

Anyhow, I just understood something everyone seems to fail to notice:


<I>Warning: Tongue in cheek mode on!</I>

I just figured this out! Everybody says CODA is a bad d20 ripoff. They're wrong about the d20 part! It's a bad ripoff, because it just isn't! It is in fact an <I>ICON</I> ripoff! Plain and simple! Can you believe it?
I mean, how could they hope to decieve us any longer! The similarities are so numerous I can't even count them! Let's try to gather some ...
Of course, there is chapter one. Notice how similar it is to ICON's? Both describe the Star Trek universe, and CODA's has a glossary which is strikingly reminiscent of ICON's.
Then there are the templates/archetypes. CODA has some, and this just goes to show that it copied ICON in that way too!
I'll skip to chapter 7, which is so blatantly taken from ICON it's incredible. Chapter 7 in CODA decribes various advantages and flaws a character can have, things that they call "Edges and Flaws". Wait, this is exactly what advantages and disadvantages in ICON were! And to add insult to injury, they even use mostly the same names as in ICON!
And then there is the infamous chapter 2: Species. Can you believe the nerve? They use mostly the same races as in the DS9 rulebook! Bajorans, Klingons, Cardassians, and even Humans! Damn, this is just insane. They just took it and copied it and this is really a bad game because they shouldn't have done this and .... and .... and ....
/me goes on and on and on about the similarities.

<I>All right, off you go: Tongue in cheek mode off .</I>

P.S.: Feel free to comment, reply, expand, move or even delete this thread, it is not a very vital one anyway .

[Liquidator Queeg]

Bull, we all know the CODA designers ripped of Synnibar!

Steve

[Lancer]

... I don't know, I just felt the need to get utterly silly for a minute or two.

You could have done a lot worse things than that.

Continuing the rip-off list:
Can you even believe it? Coda uses d6, just as Icon did.
And even worse than that, not only do both games use the same kind of dice, whoever wrote Coda had the guts to just go ahead and steal the whole concept that a higher roll is better than a low roll. If I hadn't read it with my own eyes I swear I would never have believed it.
And the one thing Coda didn't rip-off from Icon? They couldn't get it right: Phasers can kill you know with just one shot! And you don't even roll for damage! One original idea in the whole book and it turned out to be a disaster.

[Ineti]

I am shocked and appalled and yes, dismayed that anyone would dare to create a mere game out of The Great Bird's untouchable creation. Taking something as pure and perfect as Star Trek and attempting to make a game out of it is just... just...



I can't go on, I'm so appallingly appalled.

[KillerWhale]

Hey, here's what proves CODA is an ICON rip-off: there are even conversion guidelines between both!!!

[Calcoran]

Steven: Prove it! I have given you ample proof that CODA is an ICON rip-off, and my dear colleagues Lancer and KW gave you some more. I think you can't beat us there!

[Lancer]

Originally posted by KillerWhale
Hey, here's what proves CODA is an ICON rip-off: there are even conversion guidelines between both!!!

That only proves that the evil powers behind Coda will try anything to get true roleplayers (i.e. those who play Icon) to join the dark side of games.

[Calcoran]

(re-reading KW's post) What?!? Conversion guidelines?!? What will they think of next? An internet site that gives material for both games I'm sure! The presumptuousness!

[Liquidator Queeg]

Elite Orders ... *cough* ... Warhammer FRP Advanced Careers

Steve

(Who's not sure the "elite" orders are even in the Trek game, but knows damn well they're in Lord of the Rings. )

[Calcoran]

Now this opens the door to a whole new dimension:
The Lord Of The Ring RPG

Is it a:

• WFRP ripoff?
• ICE MERP ripoff?
• CODA ST-RPG ripoff?
• ICON ripoff?

I'm not sure, I don't have the book yet ... but what I know for sure is that it is <I>not</I> a d20 ripoff. Repeat after me:
LotR RPG is <I>not</I> a d20 ripoff!
LotR RPG is <I>not</I> a d20 ripoff!
LotR RPG is <I>not</I> a d20 ripoff!
LotR RPG is <I>not</I> a d20 ripoff!
LotR RPG is <I>not</I> a d20 ripoff!

(sorry)

[Ineti]

w00+! D1d 50m30n3 54y l33+ 0rd3r5?

Okay, enough! Exorcise that demon, away away!

So I haven't had my caffiene yet today, SO WHAT?

Really, I'm not silly all the time...just once in a while. Everyone's gotta have a silly post or two, right?

[KillerWhale]

Ineti! Calcoran! Lancer! Steven! Open your eyes my friends! LOTR RPG is also an ICON Trek rip-off!!!


I mean, LOTR has the same system as Coda, which we all know, is an ICON ripoff.

And the background! Come on! Put all these folks into space, make the ring the Genesis device, and here you go! Yes, people, they ripped LOTR from Star Trek!

Aha, but we see the truth at last.

[Ineti]

Didn't Lord of the Rings come out before Star Trek?

Doesn't that mean The Great Bird (divine chorus) gasp! Stole the ideas from JRR Tolkien?

Oh no...questioning my faith now...

(sees the gates of Hell open up before him)

Now what? Is there nothing original in the world to believe in any more? Why, oh why??

Dammit, I'm going to convert to the church of Lucas. At least I know his ideas are original. Humph.

[Lancer]

Originally posted by Calcoran
I'm not sure, I don't have the book yet ... but what I know for sure is that it is <I>not</I> a d20 ripoff.

And if you believe that you will just believe anything. Face it man, just about every RPG is a D&D ripoff.

Hey, so many people belive it, it can't be wrong, can it?

[Calcoran]

Oh no! Look, ensign Lancer Raedschoert has been infected too!