MapMaker in the House! :D

[Kirok]

Originally posted by SIR SIG
hehehe

As to a planetary index, how do people want it layed out?
Do you want an exhaustive list with episode refs?

Well, I just emailed you on this, but now that it's up for discussion:

Era-specific maps, showing the growth/appearance of the Fed and various powers, empires, and the like.

A list of world/systems travelled to and/or First Contacts for each era (Worlds Visited and/or First Contacts in TOS, Worlds Visited in TNG, etc). This could be made from the index you seem to be working on.

A list of Federation members and the dates they joined. That could be organized by era, too.

See, I'm gonna be running a c. 2299 game, and....

[Kirok]

Originally posted by Lowly Uhlan
[...]A Z+/Z- chart would be awesome(maybe part of your index).

I'll second that. Sounds like a lot of work, though, and wouldn't it just be speculation. I suppose you could ref a real star map, but still...

Ah, heck, just make a CD-ROM with 3D, rotatable, zoomable, click-for-more-deatil maps.

[qerlin]

I liked it. Works for the gaming stuff just fine, especially since the distances between points in Trek deviates according to plot necessities. The planet classification chart is cool; started using it, instead of the game ones.

To each his own...

[Cochrane]

Uhlan: The Kzin are represented as The Patriarchy. It would be hard to deny this. But maybe you can.

Glad someone likes the system diagrams, I sure don't care for them.

I would have assumed House Gowron would be based on Qo'nos, but that's just me.

I checked the SB's between the SOM and SC. Some of them fit pretty well, some don't.

Kirok: I agree on era maps and series ship itineraries. I assume you noticed the list of Federation worlds on the first foldout and that you simply want dates and eras added. I wonder how many places that appear to be in the same sector actually are.

Does this make me Sig's Padawan?

[SIR SIG]

Wow!

I've been off the net a few days and hadn't even seen this thread resurrected.

When I'm online at home I'll answer properly. Still at work here

As to the private messages etc. I reply soon, again not being onlin recently.

[SIR SIG]

Originally posted by Cochrane
So Sig, is there any particular reason to send you personal messages rather than talk maps on the boards?

I'd like to see descriptions of all the Nebulae and Clusters on the Federation Foldouts. The sectors where they are located may be a good start for sector descriptions. I'd like descriptions of all the Ferengi worlds, and details about the Patriarchy, First Federation, and Tzenkethi, including the systems they control. Details of the sectors with known Starbases may be good to have when a choice must be made between sectors.

No Cochrane, talk on the boards or email is just fine.

Nebula descriptions? As class, size etc?

As to the Ferengi Alliance, how many worlds do you think there would be? There would be a number of worlds in the 'space' they claim.

As to the rest, it would be pure fan speculation unless we can draw on FASA or such.

I am currently among other projects working on a master sector list.

[SIR SIG]

Originally posted by Lowly Uhlan
I gave it the highest rating.This book, along with the Encyc. have proven to be as valuable for my game's design as the Decipher rulebooks.Whenever I need a stellar or planetary classification I go straight to SC,bypassing the NG.

Visually the book is very impressive.And just enough "flavor " text to make it interesting.And thanks to all involved in it's creation for not having the Ringworld,Riverworld,Kzin,ect. represented like they were in ST Maps.The diagrams of the individual systems and the map of Bajor were outstanding.I'll integrate those into my game also.

My series started in the sector containing Bortas(as said before, named after a ship).Bortas was Gowron's flagship so for gaming purposes it is the homeworld of the house of Gowron.It worked and I love coming up with explanations for stuff like that.

SIR SIG:Have you had a chance to see if the starbase descriptions in SOM give any hint as to whether they correspond with their locations in SC?A Z+/Z- chart would be awesome(maybe part of your index).

Thanks for the good rating on StarCharts

Good idea for Gowron's House home planet!

As yet I haven't purchased the Ops manual. Down the track I will. In the mean time can you email a more comprehensive description on the Starbases then you did originally. So I can draw some conclussions for there locations. Thanks.

[SIR SIG]

Originally posted by Kirok
Any tips on how to do this? It looks like I'll have to remove the back cover to get those fold-outs detached right at the spine. The inner 1/8-1/4 inch of that last foldout seems to be glued to the back cover.

My wife works at a custom framiong shop, so I'll be getting mine mounte don foam-core and laminated!

Wee!


art!

Very Gently

I did the best job I could. And I would rate the finished laminated job a 5/10 for quality.

They don't line very well at all. Infact I found a 1cm gap to be a good size to line them up.

Although I may have had poorly cut maps in my copy.
I'm certainly not pulling apart my signed free copy from Geoff Mandel apart to prove that point either

[SIR SIG]

Originally posted by Kirok
Well, I just emailed you on this, but now that it's up for discussion:

Era-specific maps, showing the growth/appearance of the Fed and various powers, empires, and the like.

A list of world/systems travelled to and/or First Contacts for each era (Worlds Visited and/or First Contacts in TOS, Worlds Visited in TNG, etc). This could be made from the index you seem to be working on.

A list of Federation members and the dates they joined. That could be organized by era, too.

See, I'm gonna be running a c. 2299 game, and....

Email answered

The Era based maps a re a good idea and would be a good ref for early years based campaigns such as yours

The other 2 might be best in a spreadsheet perhaps for muliple fields.

[SIR SIG]

Originally posted by Kirok
I'll second that. Sounds like a lot of work, though, and wouldn't it just be speculation. I suppose you could ref a real star map, but still...

Ah, heck, just make a CD-ROM with 3D, rotatable, zoomable, click-for-more-deatil maps.

Other then real stars, the rest of the Z axis would be Astonomy based guess work with a trek idea of locations

Still a 3d environment or atleast 2d and the z cordinates is something I've thought about for a while.

I believe Ktasay has mad a good start on a 3d cordinate listing. He has a doc file on the fedsize webpage (follow sig line, link and then links pages).

Heck if there was Software better then IFOS and Chview to represent 3D then I'd be doing that all day

[SIR SIG]

Originally posted by Cochrane
Uhlan: The Kzin are represented as The Patriarchy. It would be hard to deny this. But maybe you can.

Glad someone likes the system diagrams, I sure don't care for them.

I would have assumed House Gowron would be based on Qo'nos, but that's just me.

I checked the SB's between the SOM and SC. Some of them fit pretty well, some don't.

Kirok: I agree on era maps and series ship itineraries. I assume you noticed the list of Federation worlds on the first foldout and that you simply want dates and eras added. I wonder how many places that appear to be in the same sector actually are.

Does this make me Sig's Padawan?

Thanks for filling in for me my young Padawan

Good call on most parts. See my varied replies for specifics

[Lowly Uhlan]

Chocrane:The Patriarchy.I'm drawing a complete blank .Is this Mandel's invention or has it been mentioned in an official episode?It's been over 25 years since I've seen "Slaver Weapon"and I don't remember much about it.Cool stuff,but non-official.Could be some other Patriarchy,or maybe the author really liked the Kzinti.

[Cochrane]

Nebulae: History of events in and around, and what you mentioned.

Ferengi: the worlds shown in SC. Fan speculation is what I had in mind.

Oh, I forgot, you don't like flying. I think I'll go kill some Tuskens.

[Cochrane]

I don't remember seeing the Kzin episode of TAS, and I've never read any Kzin books, but I gather from one of those sources the Kzin are ruled by a Patriarch. I guess you're right. It could be some other Patriarchy. Tiny empire, by the way. How many systems do you suppose?

[SIR SIG]

I've heard the Patriarchy ref before other then SC as well.

What did the old maps have?

Will have to check