Why didn't your borg assimilate the Federation

[SIR SIG]

Originally posted by AslanC
I miss these old threads

And you ressurected this one on what ... a whim???

[AslanC]

Someone pointed it out to me, I think it was Matt.

Just reminded me of the old days when we all didn't think Trek sucked, except for maybe Voyager

You got a problem with that Sig?

[erhershman]

Originally posted by AslanC
Just reminded me of the old days when we all didn't think Trek sucked, except for maybe Voyager

Ahh, those were the days...

[Dan Stack]

Moderator hat on...

Discussion of the suckitude or non-suckitude of Trek isn't appropriate to the Narrator's Forum and should be directed to the Star Trek Chat area.

[SIR SIG]

Originally posted by AslanC
Someone pointed it out to me, I think it was Matt.

Just reminded me of the old days when we all didn't think Trek sucked, except for maybe Voyager

You got a problem with that Sig?

Yeh I do

Still with the 'I miss these old threads' comment it sounded more like you wanted the thread back up for the sake of a post

If it were me, I might've added another line or two with a reason for doing so.

[AslanC]

Originally posted by SIR SIG
Still with the 'I miss these old threads' comment it sounded more like you wanted the thread back up for the sake of a post ;

Now when have I ever given a crap about how many posts I have?

I all seriousness I am not debating the general suckitude of Star Trek I am debating the lack of creativity towards Trek.

There used to be threads lke this all the time.

Now they are rare, and getting rarer.

So I thought this would be fun

[mactavish]

In my last real Series, the Collective and the Dominion had a war all but unknown to the Alpha and Beta Quadrants. This is roughly what happened:

Unbeknownst to the Federation, the Klingons or the Romulans, a Borg sphere encountered an unstable wormhole in a far-spinward region of the Delta Quadrant. This anomaly led the sphere to a region in the Gamma Quadrant controlled by the Dominion.

After the sphere assimilated a trio of Dominion attack ships, a battle cruiser and several other attack ships arrived on scene and engaged the sphere. Despite the two dozen ships that engaged the Borg vessel, only a single attack cruiser survived the assault. Dominion reinforcements arrived in the sector and once again engaged the Collective.

The second engagement proved more effective when several scores of attack ships assaulted the sphere kamikaze-style, damaging it severely. Thousands of Jem’Hadar shock troops boarded the sphere and engaged the Borg drones in hand-to-hand combat. While the casualties were enormous, the Dominion proved successful… but what the cost?

Unbeknownst to the Dominion fleet, the Borg had dispatched a message to the Collective via their interplexing beacon, informing them of the massive Dominion. The signal took several weeks to reach Unimatrix 01, but when it did the Collective immediately dispatched a fleet of fifteen battle cubes to invade and assimilate its new adversary. Unfortunately the unstable wormhole that had carried the first sphere to Dominion space had collapsed.

Using transwarp technologies, the Collective’s armada arrived in the Gamma Quadrant late shortly after the conclusion of the Dominion War. The Founders, however, were ready. Millions of newly-designed Jem’Hadar soldiers impervious to Borg assimilation nanoprobes and thousands of vessels sporting new, experimental high-energy weapons met the Borg cues in battle near the Omarian Nebula. The carnage was on a scale previously unknown to either combatant.

In a war that lasted nearly five years, the Dominion and the Collective were both devastated and left in ruins. The template for the central intelligence of the Collective was disrupted and eventually destroyed by an invasion of nearly forty million Jem’Hadar troops, thus preventing any further incarnations of the Borg Queen. The Founders were almost all killed by a high-yield multikinetic neutronic device detonated near their planet that destroyed not only their solar system by a number of others within a radius of a few parsecs. In defeating an apparently unbeatable foe, both sides lost the war. Truly a Pyrrhic victory on all sides.

Small groups of Jem’Hadar and Vorta remained under the tenuous control of the few Founders not killed by the attack. Still others found salvation with the Son'a, the only other known species capable of producing the life-sustaining Ketracel White. A fair number of Vorta and Jem'Hadar were "converted" to the Son'a cause using advanced genetic reprogramming techniques, and even now the few remaining Son'a still hostile to the United Federation of Planets are plotting their revenge.

Borg vessels scattered throughout the galaxy attempted to function as mini-collectives, yet most ended in self-destruction. A single Borg probe, severely damaged, managed to enter the Beta Quadrant. It transported a very precious cargo as far from the conflict-ridden war zone as possible. What it carried was the sole surviving copy of the Collective’s core backup systems. The goal was to locate an inhabited planet, assimilate the population, and begin building a new hive. The result of this journey remains unknown.

This is all post-<i>Voyager</i>, of course, but it provides a useful set of tools for the crafting of a new Series where the Borg are a newer, deadlier threat, the Dominion is in ruins but the dangers it spawned still remain, and old enemies have gained a powerful new edge for settling their score with the UFP.

mactavish out.

[AslanC]

Nice work Mactavish!

Nice work my man!

Did you run this as a campaign or is it just theoretical? I mean did your players learn what happened?

[mactavish]

They learned bits and pieces, but the Series ended abruptly when two of my players left Michigan for Washington. Its a bit hard to play face-to-face when they live on the other side of the freakin' country!

I would really like to start a new Series that incorporates this data, but my gamers have long since went their separate ways and its hard to get together more than two or three times a year.

Hey, here's an idea: why don't a bunch of you guys move to Michigan so that I can slake my Star Trek RPG thirst? There's lots of jobs here and the weather is ... well ... there's lots of jobs!

mactavish out.

[Don Mappin]

Originally posted by mactavish
Hey, here's an idea: why don't a bunch of you guys move to Michigan so that I can slake my Star Trek RPG thirst? There's lots of jobs here and the weather is ... well ... there's lots of jobs!

Well, (un)fortunately I've got a great job and am building a house right now...

Hey, here's an idea: why don't you guys come and move to Utah? The weather is exciting, low crime, great skiing and...did I mention low crime?

[AslanC]

Utah? Salt flats and mormons. I have to give that a miss.

Or you could both move to Montreal, we have lots of great stuff here, including health care, hot french women and awesome Old European atmosphere in a modern setting

No downsides I can think of there

[C5]

Since I haven't seen Voyager's dealing with the Borg, I'll gladly ignore whatever I don't like in it for the sake of my own continuity

In my view, the Borgs are just like seen in BOBW and FC : nearly unstoppable. The only thing that prevented them from succeeding is the android Data : he managed to link with Picard (something the Borg clearly hadn't envisioned at the time, since Locutus wanted him to be dismantled), and encrypted the E-E's computer so that they couldn't access it.
After BOBW's frontal attack failed because of Data, they tried a temporal attack (using the cube as a decoy), and failed again, still because of Data. Quite puzzled by that, they are now evaluating again the state of the Beta Quadrant to make their next strike successful - all the while dealing with other powers. After all, there may be some resistance elsewhere in the Delta Quadrant (apart from Species 8472).

[Lt.Khrys Antos]

Posted by Aslan:

Utah? Salt flats and mormons. I have to give that a miss.

What's wrong with Mormons?!

In my neighberhood we have two guys who make the rounds. Nicest bunch of people I have met in a long time, even if you don't care much for their religion. If everyone is like this in Utah I'm sold.

Bad parts about Montreal? Its not Toronto. j/k

[mactavish]

[Edited to make my French Canadian friends more comfortable.]

On an unrelated note, I'm told Utah is lovely.

But concerning the Borg, I agree that they should be nigh invincible save when confronted by a force such as the Dominion. My goal was to destroy both groups in order to rebuild them to suit my needs.

I hated the Dominion, mainly due to the whole changeling aspect. I would have preferred the Vorta and the Jem'Hadar as the pawns of someone, just not a group of gelatinous goobers.

mactavish out.

[Ensign Arrgh]

IMC, they were stopped at first by massive attacks and/or unorthodox tactics, then, with the advent of the newer weaponry (pulse phaser, quantum torpedo, multi-layered shielding), I'd say they missed the boat on the Federation the first time and Starfleet found ways to send their adaptation advantage down the drain (how would they adapt to infinite frequencies, unless they actually had infinite memory), and they can now only rely on their inexistant tactics (in short, if I ever use them, they're not invincible, as about the three quarters of TNG destroyed this image, and they either appear as random conversation about news from afar in a Starbase bar, or they're sending a scout looking for a way to pierce through the Federation defences)... I personnaly hate to be faced with a Deus ex Machina as a player, and as a Narrator, I try to avoid those as cheap ways to scare my players...

[Edited out as unnecessary, but you didn't really have to edit it out , I was not really in the best of moods before I read it]