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    As someone who was in one of the highest Razzies awarded films of all time (if not the most) I think I have a uniqu persepctive on bad films.

    That said, you guys are argueing tastes. Nothing is more subjective and less objective than film critque.

    For my own money I couldn't stand Minority Report, but the critics (and many of my friends) loved it.

    Or more to home, I think Star Trek VI is a terrible Trek film, but the majority of the fans really like it, despite the problems that drive me nuts.

    Does this make me wrong and them right? Or vice versa?

    Of course not.

    It is all a matter of opinion, depsite what any film studies student will try and tell you

    No that said, I thought the CGI in AOTC was mind blowing and very very pretty and actually felt the CGI in Two Towers was more invasive.

    Nemesis I felt had some decent performances but was lacking overall in script and heart.

    But these are just my opinions. YMMV

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    PLease, lets stay on topic and out of flamefests, flamewars, etc about manners. Start a new thread for that.

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    Can we please not turn this into yet ANOTHER thread about Nemesis' shortcomings/successes? I really don't want to go down that road again. If you all don't like Nemesis, that's fine, even though I disagree with that opinion, but I get tired of people comparing AOTC to Nemesis. Feel free to beat up on Nemesis, but comparing Star Trek to Star Wars, for any reason, drives me INSANE.

    End rant, as they say.
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    Originally posted by Fesarius
    There's some question whether fighters would even be manned by that point -- the United States Air Force is already looking at ways to remotely pilot them. The problem is that the current performance ceiling is imposed by when men can tolerate, not by what the hardware can tolerate. But I digress.
    Sorry, this caught my eye and I must respond. The U.S. military is consdering using remotely piloted and autonomous air vehicles for certain mission profiles (scout/recon behind enemy lines, primarily). Most mission profiles (especially air superiority, strike and ground support) will be performed by manned fighters for the foreseeable future.

    Also, you forget that, in Trek, all ships have phenomenal inertial damping technology (a shuttle that can accelerate to warp without the crew feeling a thing for example). To me, that means a fighter could pull off high-G manuevers (that would normally be fatal to an occupant) without the pilot taking any of the G-forces. The "limits of the pilot argument" is not relevant in Trek.
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    Mr. Plissken, just because people disagree with your opinion on Nemesis, it's no reason to be abusive.
    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...24711?vi=glance
    well Mr. Oulten I shall reply in kind

    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...905892-0406234

    now try dealing with THAT!

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    Originally posted by Liz Not Beth
    Just to be fair, tell me somthing: What in your opinions makes the BEST Star Trek Movie of all time?
    An awesome villain, cool special effects, a dash of humor and a nice musical score.

    All of which, in my opinion, Nemesis had.
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    Originally posted by Snake_Plissken
    and AOTC wasn't? How was it less unacceptable than Nemesis?

    No body here is saying AOTC was better then Nem, or was a great film. Compared to the first 3 it isn't, but after the Ep I I wasn't expecting much more then some good battle scenes...Which I got. I expect a certain level with Trek (ST:II, ST:III, Undiscovered Country and ST:FC) all had mind blowing FX, passable acting and a well written story. NEM., didn't have one of these factors...It is the prototype for your big steaming pile of S**t you spoke of.

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    Or more to home, I think Star Trek VI is a terrible Trek film, but the majority of the fans really like it, despite the problems that drive me nuts.
    while I think that ST6 was a great ST movie beacause of its overall ST spirit and some great performances (like Gen. Chang) I too was bugged by the vary obvious problems that plague the movie. Because of that I too think it is highly overated.

    No that said, I thought the CGI in AOTC was mind blowing and very very pretty and actually felt the CGI in Two Towers was more invasive.
    ok, it might be me I don't know anymore. You guys are screwing me up. Let's take a look at:

    -Attack of the Clones
    -Nemesis
    -Spiderman
    -The Two Towers

    I personally think that the best CGI work was in order:

    -TTT
    -Spiderman
    -Nemesis
    -AOTC

    but if I listen to my friends, to the folks on the these boards and especially my customers I get very wildly different answers;

    some folks for instance will find that the CGI work in Spiderman was a masterwork yet the CGI in TTT was utter crap. Others will say that the CGI in AOTC was so-so but the CGI in Nemesis was awesome; others will say that the CGI in Spiderman sucked but that the AOTC CGI was the best ever while the TTT CGI was ok, etc.

    The thing I don't get with the Nemesis CGI was that to me it seemed on par overall with the stuff we have seen on FC or Insurrection.


    No body here is saying AOTC was better then Nem, or was a great film
    ah there! See? it wasn't so hard wasn't it?

    NEM., didn't have one of these factors...It is the prototype for your big steaming pile of S**t you spoke of.
    well I hate AOTC and you hate Nemesis and that's that

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