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    Need some help with an Adventure (Vulcans & The Borg)

    The reason is that my friend Jeff was to have run this and I have decided to pick it up. Unfortunatly, I havn't been able to find any of His notes on it.

    This is all he had told me (I was to be a player in it)

    It dealt with Vulcans and the Borg and why it was logical to be assimilated.

    I've come up with a Brief outline:

    Lost contact with a distant Vulcan research station

    Vulcans on board are ok, however exibiting a strange pause durring conversations(They are confering with the other Vulcans on board). Also notice they don't talk to each other much.

    Discover an Implant in the Vulcans Heads (Linking and coordinating themselves by Sub-space carrier)

    Examination reveals the implants contain some Borg Tech

    Find strange readings in base.

    Reading turn out to be a Borg Venticulum (or what ever it's called
    )

    At same time, Ship detects a Borg Cube on approach and will arrive in X time intervals.

    Sorta a Prime directive (kinda) episode

    Now for the argument........


    Pro's and cons for Assimilation (From a Vulcan's Eye View)

    Pro's:
    Near instant Concensus
    Pure Logic
    Access to a vast storehouse of info and tech
    no internal conflict
    the Borg are consistantly looking for new Information & Technology
    Complete control of emotions

    Con's:
    Loss of Individuality
    Implantation of Cybernetic Devices
    The Borg are essentialy Conquerors



    This is what i have so far. Any Feedback/Help (or Jokes ) would be appreciated.



    Thanks

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    Sounds very interesting. I can certainly see some Vulcans "logically" coming to the conclusion that Borg assimilation is the logical course of action, since some Vulcans might conclude that the overwhelming might of the Borg is too much for the Federation to withstand and it is inevitable anyway.

    Anyway, there's my two cents... although I doubt the above thoughts are even worth that much.
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    IBG -- but if they've already decided it's logical to join the collective, then they would probably wouldn't care about revealing such secrets since, logically, others should join the collective as well. Depending on why they've decided to join, of course.

    Karg -- on the philisophical "con" side. Assimilation is in direct conflict with IDIC. More viewpoints lead to a deeper understanding. Logic is but the beginning of wisdom after all. And having no free will sucks.

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    For plot comlications, if the Vulcan Isolationists got wind of this, I imagine they'd try to do something about it too.
    - Daniel "A revolution without dancing is a revolution not worth having."

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    You could also use the same reason that was used in DS9, when the genetic engineered people led by Bashir concluded that the Federation would lose the Dominion war and that it was better to surrender now and even tried to betray to end the war more quickly.
    These Vulcans could have logically concluded, after lots of studies of Borg tactics and technology, that the Borg would end up assimilating the Federation after some time (they probably have never seen Voyager ) and thus decided to join freely the Collective since they would be assimilated anyway. They could even have knowingly bring high knowledge of the Federation's tactics into the Collective, to help the Borg assimilate the Federation with a minimal loss of lives.

    And the Collective is some form of IDIC (if very twisted), after all.... "your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own", don't they say ?
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    Check this out

    On the subject of voluntarily submitting to the Borg, I think you'll find this cartoon both illuminating and hilarious:
    27th Century Borg find it less hassle to get people to sign up willingly!

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    Re: Check this out

    Originally posted by Diamond
    On the subject of voluntarily submitting to the Borg, I think you'll find this cartoon both illuminating and hilarious:
    27th Century Borg find it less hassle to get people to sign up willingly!

    Odd that one of The Borg from the 29th Century seems to be of Vulcanoid descent in that cartoon! Specially considering the plot this is in reference too!

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    I had a very simlilar idea, once. Or actually it were two ideas. The first one was about a Vulcan Chief Engineer who belived sending the players Oberth class vessel to Wolf 359 to be pretty illogical, he died in preventing that. And the second idea was about some Bynars that had been disconnected from their computer network, therefore trying to find a new collective to join. If I were a member of Starfleet I would keep an eye on the Bynars.
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    All Very good ideas guys, gonna incompass them into the adventure. probably leave out the VIM to keep conflict simpler

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    Originally posted by Karg
    All Very good ideas guys, gonna incompass them into the adventure. probably leave out the VIM to keep conflict simpler
    Despite making the suggestion, I think that's a good decision. If it were a multi-episode arc, that would be another story, but in a single adventure, best not to put too much in.
    - Daniel "A revolution without dancing is a revolution not worth having."

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    Originally posted by Sho-sa Kurita
    Despite making the suggestion, I think that's a good decision. If it were a multi-episode arc, that would be another story, but in a single adventure, best not to put too much in.
    I didn't meen to offend, I just didn't want to include it because i'm not intending for it to be a multi episode arc. if i were I'd include them, It was a good idea!

    If anyone else has a suggestion i'm still listening

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    No offense at all. I'm totally with you on this. I just sorta like the VIM as a background thing in the ST universe. I'm really curious to see how you and your Crew play this out. It could be very cool.
    - Daniel "A revolution without dancing is a revolution not worth having."

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    Wouldn't the VIM side againts the pro-assimilation vulcans, giving the PC's an odd, round about, type of back-up?
    Phoenix...

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    Originally posted by Phoenix
    Wouldn't the VIM side againts the pro-assimilation vulcans, giving the PC's an odd, round about, type of back-up?
    That would be my thinking, yes. Strange bedfellows, eh?
    - Daniel "A revolution without dancing is a revolution not worth having."

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