The K'tinga is a mean mutha..(shut yo mouth) I'm just talking bout K'tingas. But seriously I really love that old style ship. Ever since TMP I was in love with its style and lines. I always hope to see more of them but alas they are quietly disappearing. Naturally they should go away, they are outdated badly, but you gotta hate to see them just fade away like that. BoP? Liked them, tolerated them, tired of them. Vorchas? Darn nice ship, but it's missing something, or maybe it has something too much, I dunno but it doesn't do it for me.