Plantary Alliances

[Thia]

I'm not sure if this should go in this forum or another. Sorry if I guessed wrong.

When dealing with a group of different species and trying to determine if they are eligable to join the Federation, would one look at each species individually, or would you look at the Alliance itself as a whole?

[JALU3]

I would believe this question can be asked here or the Narrators Room.

However, as far as this question goes, it is my understanding that Entry into the Federation is on the Per Planet Bases, or the Per Species bases in which all her colonies would be also subject to membership due to the parent governments approval for membership.

In this case, I don't see how this is different then the latter case that I stated in the above paragraph.

[Sea Tyger]

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "planetary alliances." Are you saying a group of allied planets, or an alliance of different sovereign government on a single planet?

One of the absolutes of membership eligibility is that the planet is united under one government (that obviously meets certain standards). So, while an alliance of a number of governments on a planet my be a step in the right direction, but the Federation would probably wait until the entire world is united.

If it's the former situation (an alliance of a number of planets), the Federation would probably consider the alliance as a whole. Of course, each planet would be investigated, to ensure that all alliance members are up to Federation membership standards. Now, if there are worlds within the alliance that do not meet the requirements (in some civil rights issue), the Federation may only extend membership to some worlds of the alliance, and not others.

Needless to say, a situation as complicated as that would be a hot topic of debate, and may call for a "Journey to Babel"-style Federation Council conference to decide the issue.

[Phoenix]

To clear things up, what we're trying to find out is 5 species formed a inter-planetary-alliance (ran by a military Junta). So you have 5 Homeworlds and three inter-mixed colonies that are at the moment attempting membership applacation.


The Bable Conferance idea is not an option however (Great idea however Sea Tyger), as the PC's are on the far side of Cardassian space six months into the Dominion War. They have however receved hinted orders to enlist the Alliance in battling the Dominion.

[REG]

Originally posted by Thia
I'm not sure if this should go in this forum or another. Sorry if I guessed wrong.

When dealing with a group of different species and trying to determine if they are eligable to join the Federation, would one look at each species individually, or would you look at the Alliance itself as a whole?

Well, whoever is petitioning for membership into the Federation. If the Alliance is the governing body -- whose territory spans many planets and its populace are of many different species/culture -- that is petitioning for membership, that it will look at that system as a whole.

If a local planet that is part of a territory petitioning for membership, this may cause problem with the governing body and put the Federation in the middle. That planet must declare an independece from the governing power.

[JALU3]

Originally posted by Phoenix
To clear things up, what we're trying to find out is 5 species formed a inter-planetary-alliance (ran by a military Junta). So you have 5 Homeworlds and three inter-mixed colonies that are at the moment attempting membership applacation.

Well in this case, the orders stated doesn't necessarily give them the power to impart membership to the alliance. If anything they lack the power. What they are asked to do is to create allies/alliances in order to create a second front for the Cardassian/Dominion OPFOR.

If this IPA is seeking membership, your PCs can state that they can accept membership applications, but cannot grant membership. However, if this IPA were to show their willingness to assist the Federetion in this effort against the Dominion, to fight ethically (or atleast what the Federation views as ethically), and the willingness to help out humanitarily in the aftermath . . . then the report back to the Federation Council & Starfleet would reflect very favorably on that IPA's membership application.
No need to give them the prize right away. It's like putting the carrot infront of the horse . . . give them a goal, and something to do towards achieving it.

But I doubt it's that simple is it? You stated that this IPA is ran by a Military Junta. Is that for just day to day operations? Or is IT the government? How do they rule? Do they rule ethically and morally by the standards of the Federation? All this is to be considered.