Personal Log on Amazon

[Space_Cadet]

try the Star trek fan club store... they sell Star Trek RPGs

Trekkers haven

[Fab]

I went ahead and ordered the two books from Amazon (because they were a full ten bucks cheaper - each - than any other place I've seen), and then ordered the SOM from Barnes and Noble because I couldn't trust Amazon to get it right after the screwed up website, the e-mails, and their lack of willingness to even acknowledge that they might have been in error in the least.

Thanks for your help.

[Gamage]

Hi, I am a new member and wanted to respond to Amazon's Starfleet Operations Manual/ Personal log descrepancy.
*(Sorry but I tend to write long so if you don't want to read it all just read my bottom line at the bottom of my writing)
Heres the story:

I just started narrating a Star Trek RPG campaign. I decided from the very beginning that I was going to buy the whole series up to Creatures. So after ordering PG, NG, and NS I went to Amazon ( because it is the cheapest)
and found the Star Trek Personal Log and the Star Trek Ops Manual. I ordered them both even though it said that ops manual hasn't come in yet because I thought it would be shipped when it comes in.
Two things happened (well actually three). Several days later I received an email saying that ops manual wasn't coming and that personal log would still be coming (with the the free shipping still added may I add). So I decided to order SOM off of Decipher.
When Personal Log finally came I got (and get this) a hard cover book with the title of Starfleet Operations Manual!
Now I was mad! I was going to get two SOM books! I first thought that Amazon got the books mixed up. So before contacting Amazon I went back to the sight and found this:

* Amazon says Personal Log is a Hard cover book and SOM is a paperback! Now this is weird because I would have thought a little Log book would have been paperback and SOM would be hardcover (as with the rest of the decipher books). On top of this I looked at the ISBN number for both books and they're identical!
Bottom line:
Starfleet Operations manual is(or was) Identical to Personal Log!
(Amazon has finally corected this problem and doesn't even have personal log any more)

[Tobian]

That does sound like a bit of a pain Gamage.. I was never entirelly sure what the personal Log was anyway? I've seen it dotting about, but only on Amazon, so I suspect it doesn't exist and it was just a clerical error.

[Fab]

I had heard the personal log was a book of blank lined pages in a Starfleet format. Sort of a diary for Star Trek fans, definitely not a role playing help, unless you wanted it to take notes in.

[Tobian]

I thought so, but it's rather expensive for note paper - I'd rather just buy some plain paper. I think it would take too long for me to write anything as I'd feel pressured to write neatly on expensive paper

[D.S.McBride]

As best I recall from those dim, dead days when Decipher was still advertising it - and from what the ex-LUG crew would mention when posting here - the Personal Log was supposedly a more detailed set of character sheets that allowed an individual history for all stages of development to be written down, rather than synthesized into a couple of sentences.

Frankly, on the presumption that it's going to be a good long time before such a document gets released, either in hardcopy or PDF, I suggest using Patrick Murphy's excellent sheets designed for the Icon system. With very little adjustment - aside from the stats and skills frontpage - they should be usable in Coda format. Either way you cut it, character history is character history.

[Doug Burke]

Decipher was at one time planning an expended character sheet called "Personal Log". However, that prodcut is no longer on the product schedule (no doubnt due to the lackluster response the LOTR "Hero's Journal" received). The product called "Personal Log" available on Amazon, therefore, is not a Decipher product.