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You kidding, people here in the western US were amused.Originally posted by JonA
You know - us people outside of the USA (yes, such a place does exist LOL) were rather bemused by the events of Thursday!
It's all a conspiracy - they're all lying to you.
Mr Bush Jnr didn't put his 50 cents in the meter.
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Well, I weathered the blackout more-or-less OK. The computer we were going to upgrade (mine...) got upgraded rather more quickly than we'd budgeted due to a fried motherboard. Luckily, we've got a good chunk of change from a project we're working on, so we were able to replace the motherboard with a new P4 1.8GHz. The ol' machine fairly flies now.
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Yup. Build a friggin' nuclear -- oh wait, nuc-yuler -- plant or three for f+++'s sake! THAT I'll gladly pay taxes for. Clean, efficient, honks off the enviro-nuts. Nucyuler power, yes! in my back yard!Originally posted by Eric R.
...And of course the regulations they have forced into place
As for the grids -- most of the interconnecting grids disconnected as they were supposed to all along the eastern seaboard and in the Rockies. Bets say some 49 cent circuit breaker failed. They're machines...this stuff happens. At least it's not Manila, where the power goes out almost daily.
Conservation's a great idea, but it isn't the answer; we're a techno-society, like it or not. We need more production, not rolling blackouts and ration cards.
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IIRC, No new commercial nuclear plants have been built anywhere in the US in 25 years. That means that none of the advances in nuclear plant technology have been utilized in all that time, including much safer reactors.
The enviros have us all running obsolete old things, rather than build newer, safer plants.
Anyone who'd ever played Sim City can tell you, that's a bad idea.
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Who is TMI?
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This is in the U.S? I had never heard of it.
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Wow. I always wondered why we dont make use of reactors more.
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I consider myself to be something of an environmentalist, and I would love to see the US build more nuclear power plants. Especially with the advances in technology that have been made. Sure, you get some waste that isn't going to go away any time soon, but it's all well contained in a small well-armored area if everyone is doing their jobs correctly (and I'd want those guys to have massive oversight. No cutting corners). I believe that a good solution for it will be reached at some point, but the nuclear waste problem doesn't have to be solved right now. It's way better than blowing tons and tons of crap into the air with coal and gas, that's for sure.
What I'd rather see is a decentralized power grid where every house and building has it's own fuel cell that runs on a hydrogen supply supplemented by solar and/or wind power to crack water for extra hydrogen. That's still quite a ways off, though.
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One thing about nuclear waste...it's less radioactive than the stuff that went in the plant; that's how it works...the decay of radioactive isotopes. Most people also haven't figured out nuclear engineers don't just poop this stuff...they dig it out of the ground. Answer: put the waste in the friggin hole you just dug!Originally posted by Argyle
Sure, you get some waste that isn't going to go away any time soon, but it's all well contained in a small well-armored area if everyone is doing their jobs correctly (and I'd want those guys to have massive oversight. No cutting corners). I believe that a good solution for it will be reached at some point, but the nuclear waste problem doesn't have to be solved...
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Did fine down here in Austin.Of course Texas is on it's own interconnect. Yup, LBJ, Bush Sr. and Dubya sure have us taken care of.
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