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    Talking U.S. going back to moon

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    ROAD-TRIP!!!!
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    Cool

    I don't know about you guys, but I smell an MTV-produced reality show here.

    I got three words for ya: free floating sex.
    Anyhoo, just some random thoughts...

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    Hehe... so China launching people in space could reactivate the Space Race ? Don't think I could complain about that particular type of war...

    Reality show ? After all, that could work. "Watch in real time the astronauts on their way to the Moon. Vote every week which one has to be tossed out of an airlock, and which will be stranded on the Moon".
    Mmmh.... it would help to pay the price of the journey after all...
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    Reality TV and sex...is that what the world has boiled down to...OK sex is good...

    In regards to returning to the moon, lets actually do something up there other than plant a flag, have a Sunday drive, play a round of golf, take samples, and then leave.
    Given the moons 1/16th gravity a few trained individuals could build a permanent structure, seal it off from vacuum, and start a research type station on micro-gravity. A hundred years from now we could have a new Silicone Valley developing useful item for humanity. Another idea, a relay station for trip farther out in to the Solar System, pump and go complete with road munchies and really bad local maps. Any body else seeing this as a good idea.
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    Pheonix you traitor! It was supposed to be SECRET. However, since it no longer is...


    <<< NOW HIRING >>>

    Joung female sports students (science degree an asset) for colonization project. Only applications with pictures will be considered.

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    Originally posted by Phoenix
    Given the moons 1/16th gravity a few trained individuals could build a permanent structure, seal it off from vacuum, and start a research type station on micro-gravity.
    Kind of hard to do research on microgravity when you're in a 1/6g environment. (Not 1/16)

    Research in a microgravity environment is what the ISS is being built for.

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    If Lockheed keeps up their present rate of development and advancement to the C-130, in about twenty years we'll have the C-130Y model, capable of delivering two jeeps and a couple dozen people to the moon and landing on a 2000 foot dirt strip.

    Unfortunately, its cruise speed is still 200 knots, so it's a loooong trip. I think I'll stick with the classic 1963 C-130E, at least until they build the C-130Z model which will replace the turboprops with warp nacelles.

    Seriously, I'd love for the US, and the rest of the world, to go back to the moon. We're going to have to get off this planet eventually. It won't be long until we run out of room for all the humans on Earth, then we'll have to either spread out or thin our numbers. That gets really ugly.
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    Arrow

    Perhaps if we learn how to terraform the uninhabitable areas on this planet into inhabitable environment, we could put off off-world colonization. I'm sure desolate regions like Ethiopia would love that. It would go a long way to stabilizing that third-world country and be less vulnerable to terrorist infiltration.
    Anyhoo, just some random thoughts...

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    Perhaps we could do both ...

    Anyway, glad to know someone is seriously considering gearing up for the Space Race.
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    Hmm. Why isn't Brazil participating in the Space Race? All we do is train a few of their people to go on OUR spacecraft using OUR fuel. We didn't charge them rental fees. Geez, get their own!



    And to be a Devil's Advocate, how can you convince the US taxpayers to invest billions of $$$ to return to the moon? You're gonna say it is a matter of pride and bragging right?

    "Our economy is in a recession, unemployment rate is high, but the good news is we landed on the moon for the first time since the last millenium. What is even better than that, is I save money by switching to GEICO."

    Anyhoo, just some random thoughts...

    "My philosophy is 'you don't need me to tell you how to play -- I'll just provide some rules and ideas to use and get out of your way.'"
    -- Monte Cook

    "Min/Maxing and munchkinism aren't problems with the game: they're problems with the players."
    -- excerpt from Guardians of Order's Role-Playing Game Manifesto

    A GENERATION KIKAIDA fan

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    Originally posted by Liz Not Beth
    Sillicone is the rubber stuff they seal cracks with and make breast-implants from. Sillicon is the suff they make computer chips from.

    Now wich one did you really mean?
    Yes!

    Egri:
    Too Bad. Oh and what's a "Joung" female?

    Bill:
    Typo, and yes. But how big can the ISS get and remain stable vs. building a factory sized object to work with.
    Phoenix...

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    Originally posted by Phoenix
    Yes!

    Egri:
    Too Bad. Oh and what's a "Joung" female?

    Yes typo, but you aren't any better yourself.

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    Bill:
    Typo, and yes. But how big can the ISS get and remain stable vs. building a factory sized object to work with. [/B]
    Since the ISS is in a stable orbit, gravitation towards earth and centrifugal forces nullify each other. Size or mass don't matter in that respect, so the designers are only restricted by the availability of resources.

    I've heard someone say that the ISS is the biggest hindrance on our way to the other planets because just keeping it running consumes a big part of the space program budget.
    This would even be worse with a station on the moon. Apart from having to shuttle radiation shielding (led) material to protect the atronauts everything will have to be transported a longer way.
    What's even worse is that new space crafts will have to be developed for landing and returning from the moon surface with the ability to carry big loads.
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