Time travel

[Cochrane]

Do you like time travel as long as it's not Trek? What time travel entertainment do you like? I like time travel in Trek, and I like Back to the Future. I haven't seen much of Doctor Who.

[JonA]

Originally posted by Cochrane
Do you like time travel as long as it's not Trek? What time travel entertainment do you like? I like time travel in Trek, and I like Back to the Future. I haven't seen much of Doctor Who.

DS9 for the reasons I quoted in your thread on Star Trek forum.

Back to the Future had some flaws in the plot (which if anyone is interested in I'll be happy to post - although I don't wish to sound anally retentive).

Doctor Who - your missing out on a classic time travel series.

But you forgot:

BILL AND TED!

[SIR SIG]

I voted other.

I mean Trek makes a good episode but time continuity almost never works out right.

BttF while better then Trek time ways still had problems.

I seem to remember the TimeCop series being fairly good.

[Ramage]

There is only one movie (or tv show for that matter) that handled time travel in a way I enjoyed -- 12 Monkeys. Main reason there is that it is possible to even see the time travel as hallucination.

Nope, hate most time travel material, especially time travel into the past.

[Cochrane]

Lets see...

At what point did Marty's parents realize that their son was Calvin Klein?

Was there another Marty in Switzerland when the main Marty was in the dark 1985?

Why didn't Doc in 1885 remember that he had dressed Marty in 1955?

Why couldn't Doc write a time capsule letter in 1885 to be delivered in 1985?

What did George think when Star Wars and Star Trek introduced Darth Vader and the Planet Vulcan?

How closely did "A Match Made in Space" follow the true story?

I'm sure I've thought of others in the past. Go ahead and post yours.

[Cochrane]

Why didn't Doc in 1885 remember the 1955 events of Part 2?

I guess I should have included Time Trax and Seven Days in the poll.

[TheAntisocial]

Originally posted by Cochrane
I guess I should have included Seven Days in the poll.

I think Seven Days handles time travel the best, mainly due to there aren't as many paradoxes created by going back a week

[C5]

The Back to the Future trilogy is my favourite movie about time travel - mainly because it's so light hearted and fun (though I like the 3rd one a little less), and thus uses any possibilities time travel offers to have fun. Of course, there are many paradoxes in it - but I don't think it's possible to do a time travel story without them. It's a bit like a James Bond movie where any random car doesn't have the key on the ignition and the tank full

As for errors in BttF, here are some my twisted mind thought of :
How the hell did the McFly family stay in the same town during 130 years??? I think the probabilities of such an case in the States are around 0.001% (okay, that one is a plot contrivance more than an error, but I think it's the one I thought at first about).
Why did 2015 not change when Biff returned from the past ? When Marty returned in 1985 the first time, all changes done in the past had already affected the present.
Why does Marty's great-great-whatever mother look like his mother (same actress...) while they are the ancestors of his father ? (unless their families are somehow connected...)

And yes, I know few of these must be present on the usual "BttF plot errors list"

[spyone]

My vote went to Doctor Who beacuse they never had a problem with changing things.
I mean, the Doctor has IIRC stopped the Daleks from being created at least twice, in completely different circumstances.
So, in the Doctor Who world, the past is a very flexable thing, much like our perception of the future.

Back to the future is a close second. I once tried to chart out exactly what was going on there, and how many alternate timelines there are.
Take this for an example: The Marty McFly who visited the 1950s in the first movie had the unsuccessful father bullied by Bif all his life. But, when he returns home he sees himself go back in time fleeing the terrorists. But that Marty McFly was different, and grew up with a successful father. So what happened to him?

[spyone]

Originally posted by Cochrane
Why didn't Doc in 1885 remember the 1955 events of Part 2?

For the same reason Marty didn't remember his father's successful career.

Seriously, because there were several "alternate" versions of everyone. The Doc Marty dealt with in 1955 to go back to 1885 was not the same Doc who arrived in 1885, though he might later become him.
If that makes any sense at all.

[spyone]

Originally posted by Cochrane
Lets see...

At what point did Marty's parents realize that their son was Calvin Klein?

Was there another Marty in Switzerland when the main Marty was in the dark 1985?

Why didn't Doc in 1885 remember that he had dressed Marty in 1955?

Why couldn't Doc write a time capsule letter in 1885 to be delivered in 1985?

What did George think when Star Wars and Star Trek introduced Darth Vader and the Planet Vulcan?

How closely did "A Match Made in Space" follow the true story?

I'm sure I've thought of others in the past. Go ahead and post yours.

1) unknow, but they probably did.
2) yes. The Marty who grew up in that world was sent to Switzerland, just like the Marty who grew up with a successful father went off in the time machine to ... when exactly?
3) see my above comments about Doc and Marty.
4) Could have, but judged it too difficult for some reason. Trying to contact himself before he had the accident could have ... unforseen results. Better to contact someone who you know has the knowedge to fix the machine and who can be trusted to rescue Marty from 1955. Since Doc now believes Time Travel to be dangerous, the fewest number of time trips is to just give Marty the time machine to go back to 1985 with.
5) I suspect that by the time Star Trek and later Star Wars came around, George McFly did not remember the events of that night very clearly, and probably believed he had dreamed them. Thus, he believed he subconsciously added the word "Vulcan" to his dream sometime after he had heard about Star Trek.
6) not very, but it's impossable to know.

[spyone]

Originally posted by C5

How the hell did the McFly family stay in the same town during 130 years???

I don't know about that. There's a house in Cherry Valley, New York that one of my father's cousins lives in. They are at least the third generation at that address. My grandfather grew up there and he would have been 101 this year.
My Grandfather moved away because he disliked his father. Most of his siblings remained in the immediate area.
One of my aunts inherited her father's house. Her brother built a house across the street. Two of her sisters moved to the next town, but they live across the street from each other.

So, I don't find it very improbable that George McFly bought a home in the town he grew up in, as his father had before him and his grandfather before that.

[Cochrane]

Mr. Social: Where is the non travelling Frank when the future Frank travels back?

C5: I think there are plenty of families that stay in one place for that long, or leave and come back. My grandparents on both sides moved to northern California in the 40's and here I am within 100 miles of where they moved to in 2003, after living away for a decade. I think there are plenty of families in the east that are still in the same place as in colonial times, including some distant relatives of mine in the south. I can see moving back east a ways or something for employment, but there wasn't much more west to migrate to. And when you consider the Tannens, Stricklands, and Wilsons sticking around too, it does seem strange.

Why was George goofy again in 2015?

I agree about Maggie and Lorraine both being played by Lea Thompson. That's... wierd. And really Jamus shouldn't look so much like Marty Jr ind his sister either, they should have inherited more traits from their other ancestors, maybe Jennifer's daughter should have looked like Jennifer.

Why didn't 2015 Jennifer remember being in 2015 before?

Why didn't 2015 Marty seem to remember anything?

When did Mad Dog reproduce?

When was Griff's father born?

When Doc said he had already been to the future, did he mean in the train? Does that explain Clara being able to have children at her age?

Where did the Brown family go in the train at the end? Did Marty get to have any more fun? Will there be a new movie in 2015? Maybe a remake? What would Part 4 have been about? Do I remember correctly that they had an idea for it? Just what happened on the cartoon? I saw part of it once, but it was very stupid and wierd and I didn't recognize anyone or understand when they were or what was going on.

I should have included Quantum Leap in the poll too.

[Cochrane]

Is "A match made in Space" simply all of the events of the entire trilogy?

Maybe by 2015 the McFlys, Tannens, Stricklands and/ or Wilsons should have moved to Alaska, Yukon, Hawaii, or Siberia. Maybe Washington or Oregon.

What were the experiences of the Marty, whose life was affected by his other self in 1955, when he himself went to 1955? Was he surprised by how different his father was? Was he less surprised about how his mother was?

What did the 1985 Doc who had met Marty in 1955 say to his 1985 Marty? Any thing different? How did Marty and Doc's friendship begin when Doc hadn't met before, and when he had?

C5: Were you aware of the deleted scene on the DVD of Part 2 where Biff fades out after returning to 2015? It is explained that Lorraine shot him at some point.

[WarriorKnight]

Originally posted by C5


As for errors in BttF, here are some my twisted mind thought of :
How the hell did the McFly family stay in the same town during 130 years??? I think the probabilities of such an case in the States are around 0.001% (okay, that one is a plot contrivance more than an error, but I think it's the one I thought at first about).

Well my family has been in Marion,Ohio since 1871 when my grandfather was born here.Not so far fetched to me.