Honor Harrington RPG with ICON and SRM?

[Arithon]

I was wondering if anyone ever tackled this RPG format yet? and if ICON would work?

[qerlin]

I've thought about it, and yeah...I think ICON would do well. I've also looked at doing an ICON B5.

[Arithon]

Originally posted by qerlin:
I've thought about it, and yeah...I think ICON would do well. I've also looked at doing an ICON B5.

Ok.. how would you go about this? and also howq would you consider setting up the SRM?

For those of you not familiar with Honor Harrington, she is a fictional character written in a series of Books by David Weber. She is a cross between Captain Janeway and Horatio Hornblower, and is a Senior Officer of the Manticore Empire which is based very much like the British empire, composed of a ruling family , a Prime minister, and Parliment. they are at odds and in War against the Republic of Haven, a very Fascist Regime, whose Economics are in danger of collapsing, and then we have the technical differences.. Haven being larger or was prior to the war, was able to field out a larger amount of ships, whereas the Manticores, have the tech advantage.. Honmor is also accompanied by a TYree Cat named Nimitz, who while intelligent occasionaly provides Comic Relief.. I reccomend thios series for anyone interested as it is extremely well written.

[qerlin]

I don't even think there's a croos here; this is Horatio Hornblower with boobs in space. And it's great.

As for the SRM: I think for simplicity sake I would use the original sip rles from the core books. I haven't read the books in about a year, so I would have a hard time creating them just yet.

[Cmdr Powers]

The Honor Harrington series is many things, but it is not 'boobs in space'!!

This series is essentially the Napoleonic Wars translated to space. The ships have 'broadsides' of grasers and fusion bomb-pumped x-ray laser head missiles. Instead of ships of the line, you have ships of the wall (3d you know?) and the ships have impenetrable 'sidewall' forcefields, but vulnerable nose and tail areas, allowing 'crossing the t' maneuvers. Nimitz the Treecat does provide some comic relief, but the six-limbed Sphinxian treecat is telepathic and empathic and give Honor Harrington a distinct edge when dealing personally with people. The Royal Marines wear powered battle armor, dueling is allowed. Manticore women serve alongside men in all capacities. Their opposition, the People's Republic of Haven (Peeps), are most similar to all the bad aspects of the French Terror with leaders like 'Rob Pierre' and 'Claude St. Just'.

The Honor Harrington series is an excellent read and really deserves an RPG. If you'll do a search you'll find plenty of stuff about the HH universe, but check this one out first- http://people.we.mediaone.net/cptruss/index.html


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"The best diplomat I know is a fully charged phaser bank" -Montgomery Scott

[Doug Burke]

Originally posted by Cmdr Powers:
The Honor Harrington series is many things, but it is not 'boobs in space'!!

I doubt that's what qerlin meant to imply, Cmdr. I think what he said may have been meant along the lines of "this is a female Horatio Hornblower in space."

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, qerlin.



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McCoy: "You're taking me to the promised land?"
Kirk: "That's what you get for missing staff meetings, Doctor."

[Cmdr Powers]

I knew that! Just wanted to make sure everyone was on the right track with this thread. The HH series is probably the best 'space opera' to come down the track in quite a while. I hope everyone gives it try.



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"The best diplomat I know is a fully charged phaser bank" -Montgomery Scott

[qerlin]

Yoi'd be right Doug; that's what I meant. It is one of the better sci-fi novel series, I agree.

I think you'd be more upset that Harrington was compared to Janeway. I believe Honor usually wins her fights.

And hey, 'Boobs in Space'...tht could be a good series, too. (Can you imaging the title sequences?)

[Greg Smith]

Originally posted by qerlin:

And hey, 'Boobs in Space'...tht could be a good series, too. (Can you imaging the title sequences?)

Staring Jeri Ryan, presumably?




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Greg

"Calm may work for Locutus of Borg here, but I'm freaked and intend to stay that way."

[calguard66]

Actually, I thought that WAS Voyager's subtitle... not that I'm complaining )

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[Dan Stack]

Gentlemen...

While some limited discussion of Icon would seem to be reasonable (by definition of "Information on the game mechanics, rules, and general Icon System questions", I believe that threshold has been passed. General discussion of the Honor Harrington novels would be appropriate in the General Discussion Forums. Icon discussion would be permissible here.

-Dan, Co-Moderator


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[calguard66]

Well, I've been thinking.

The HH univers in general, and the RMN specificly run their ship so diffeently that I wonder if whole new sets of sills would be needed... aside from the obvious changes.

Enlisted have a much wider responsibility, and officers seem to fall int only two main types... line and engineer. A line officer like Harrington is trained in Astrogation and Tactics, and supervises enlisted crewmembers who actually man the helm or fire the weapons, rather than doing it themselves.

This would seem to require less "hands on" operation skills, and more theory and leadership training.

Engineering officers also seem to have less wrench-turning skill and more Astronautics and other theory and leadership related skills.

I don't think that you could easily adapt the LUGTrek overlays. Whole new overlays, with the new skills required by the setting's technology seem to be required.

AND HH's universe has MARINES!! )

(Ducks for cover)

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"I'd rather die standing than live on my knees..."
Shania Twain

[Cmdr Powers]

Do they ever! Big, black-power-suited marines armed with plasma weapons and tri-barrels. Yes, an HH Icon game might be kinda hard to produce, but I think it just might be worth every drop of sweat.

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"The best diplomat I know is a fully charged phaser bank" -Montgomery Scott

[Cmdr Powers]

Seriously, folks,

There are only two basic races involved in the HH universe: Humans and Sphinxian Treecats. Humans are divided up into the usual spacegoing subspecies- heavyworlders, lightworlders, genengineered, and so on. Treecats do not (as of yet) greatly involve themselves in human goings on, but they provide their bonded humans with the ability to detect the emotions of other humans (and more in some extreme cases) and they are about to become more involved in the human universe. Therefore, there going to be rather few racial templates- basically human variants. Professional overlays are going to be all over the map however. But you can probably bring the number down by first concentrating on the naval and marine professions, followed by espionage, nobleman, diplomatic corps, and other important positions. Among the naval overlays, these break down into typical space opera jobs as Navigation, Pilot, Gunnery, Computer Ops, Communications, Logistics, Medical, and Engineering. Marines would probably have only one or two overlays, probably Rifleman and Assault Pilot, but you could get away with just Rifleman (ask any Marine).

The various factions would include the Graysons, the Kingdom of Manticore, the People's Republic of Haven, the Solarian League, and a couple of minor others.

The tech would have to include the mechanics of Warshawski Sails, impellers, skinsuits, power armor, plasma guns, pulser darts, firearms, LAC's, nuclear missiles, bomb-pumped x-ray laser head missiles, graser beam weapons, and the assorted tactics of using ships of the wall. Don't worry, a lot of this is going to look like old wet-navy stuff with spacesuits and nukes.

At any rate, this is a general outline. The politics of the Manticore people vs the Havenites vs Grayson and so on, demand whole familiarization sections by themselves.

So what do you think? Is it worth looking into?


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"The best diplomat I know is a fully charged phaser bank" -Montgomery Scott

[Arithon]

I would agree this would be a wonderful set up.. At the same time I think a redoing of the SRM would make for perfect Ship Design.. You also forgot about the Grav Lance, which while it occasionally works, most captains would rather not see it placed aboard