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    Questions on Size and Cargo

    I am having a problem with where an 80 meter (158,000 metric ton) sphere would fit into the Size Table. Should I just use the Length Range on the Table and figure it to be size three?

    Also how do you figure cargo holds on a ship with detachable cargo containers? Giving the ship 33,000 multiplied by size in cargo seems a bit much when the majority of the cargo will be in the 80 meter sphere. Should I take 33,000 multiplied by the size of the sphere multiplied by the number of containers and list that as the ships cargo?

    Thanks for the help and advise guys.
    Steven "redwood973" Wood

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    For the size an 80 meter sphere falls in to the following
    length = size 3,
    beam = size 5,
    heigth = size 7,
    weight = size 4.
    Now you could take the sizes and average them to size 5, go with just the length for size 3, or base it off the weight of size 4. Given how the nature of SU's are figuritive and not absolute it's really a mater of choice.

    With the cargo containers, are we talking detachable like a train or like a CD tower (cases being the containers)?
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    Thanks Phoenix. I guess I am leaning towards going with just the length and keeping them at size three. As for the containers, these are the detachable. . .leave them behind full and take the empty ones with ya. . .like a train.
    Steven "redwood973" Wood

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    Should have thought my reply out just a little bit more, train-like being externalally mounted, correct.

    If you have a couple size three cargo containers trailing behind the main ship...that's a lot of cargo

    Little quick math, shake, pour...about 26,000,000 cubic meters of stuff...
    Phoenix...

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    Originally posted by Phoenix
    Should have thought my reply out just a little bit more, train-like being externalally mounted, correct.

    If you have a couple size three cargo containers trailing behind the main ship...that's a lot of cargo
    Externally mounted, and slung under the ship. (See pic below)

    Little quick math, shake, pour...about 26,000,000 cubic meters of stuff. . .
    Wow! That's a lot of stuff. Math was never my strong point. Would you be kind enough to provide the formula you used? I might need that for some of the other ships I am writting up for in Spacedock.

    I just have to figure out what to do for cargo space on the Aquarius-class and it will be finished and ready for posting.
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    Steven "redwood973" Wood

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    Ah I've seen that ship before,

    Here you go, Space Dock stats by me, enjoy.

    P.S. I think I got every thing right.

    <>= SU's []= power requirements
    HULL SYSTEMS:
    Size: 3
    SU’s Available: <1000>
    SU’s Used: <996>
    Hull:
    Outer: <12>
    Inner: <12>
    Resistance:
    Outer: 4 <3>
    Inner: 4 <3>
    Structural Integrity Field:
    Main: Class 3 <21> [6/12]

    PERSONAL SYSTEMS:
    Crew/Passengers/Evacuation: 0/2/2
    Crew Quarters: None
    Environmental Systems
    Basic Life Support: <12> [1]
    Gravity: <3> [1]
    Replicator Systems: None
    Personnel Transport: Jefferies Tubes <3>
    Fire Suppression System: Yes <3> (1)
    Cargo Holds: 26,000,000 Cubic Meters <780>
    Escape Pods: #:1 Cap: 4 <1>

    Propulsion Systems
    Warp Drive: None
    Impulse Engine: None
    Reaction Control System: Yes <3> [2]

    Power Systems
    Reactor Power: Class1/A
    Generates 70 power per round <26>
    EPS: <15>
    Standard Usable Power: (70)

    Operations Systems
    Bridge: <15>
    Computers:
    Core One: <6> [5]
    Optical Data Network: <9>
    Navigational Deflectors: None

    Sensor Systems:
    Long Range Sensors: None
    Lateral Sensors: Class 1 (Strength Rating 1) <2> [5]
    Gain Package: Standard
    Coverage: Standard
    Navigational Sensors: Class 1 (Strength Rating 1) <2> [5]
    Gain Package: Standard
    Probes: None
    Sensor Skill: 2

    Flight Control Systems
    Autopilot: None
    Navigational Computer: Class 1 <0>
    Inertial Damping Field:
    Main: <6> [3]
    Strength: 8 (based on mother ship warp speed)
    Number: 2
    Attitude Control: Yes <1> [1]

    Communications Systems
    Type: Class 1 <2> [2]
    Strength: 1
    Security: -0
    Emergency Communications: Yes <1> [2]

    Tractor Beams None

    Transporters
    Type: Cargo <13 x 4 = 52> [7 x 4 = 28]
    Pads: 10 (1000 kg) (<5> [5])
    Emitter/Receiver Array: Cargo Type 3 (<3> [2])
    Energizing/Transition Coils: Class E (Strength Rating 5)(<5>)
    Number & Location: 4

    Security Systems
    Rating: 0
    Anti-Intruder System: None
    Internal Force Fields: Yes <3>

    Science Systems None

    Tactical Systems: None
    Auto-Destruct System: Yes

    Auxiliary Spacecraft Systems None
    Last edited by Phoenix; 03-09-2004 at 07:05 PM.
    Phoenix...

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    Thought I should mention, the 'bridge' and other related systems are akin to a cargo monitoring room, roughly the size of a shuttle craft's cockpit. I also gave it the ability to move via thrusters so it can maintain some form of orbit if needed, cargo transporters for the normal reasons, one escape pod just in case, etc...
    Phoenix...

    "I'm not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity,
    but maybe we should just remove all the safety lables and let nature take it's course"

    "A Place For Everything & Nothing In It's Place"

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    Thanks Phoenix! As soon as I get the time I will finish up the datasheet, and add your stats to it as well. It might take me a day or two. . .your stats have given me a few ideas.

    Thanks.
    Steven "redwood973" Wood

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    Hay Phoenix I forgot to ask, would any of the stats change for these cargo pods if they are going to be used to transport fuels?

    Thanks
    Steven "redwood973" Wood

    "Man does not fail. He gives up trying."

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    Fuel, food, parts, incompleat shuttles pretty much any thing that doesn't require life support, ala colonists or live stock or are clearly defined as something else (shuttle bay, massive reactors, etc...).

    If you like I could make some notes on personnal transports and other designs.
    Phoenix...

    "I'm not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity,
    but maybe we should just remove all the safety lables and let nature take it's course"

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    That would be SWEET Phoenix!. Thanks!

    And if ya didn't see it yet here is why I am asking the questions.
    Last edited by redwood973; 03-16-2004 at 03:55 PM.
    Steven "redwood973" Wood

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    Ok, I have two concepts in mind here. First a non-luxery personel/passenger type transport (sub-types- prison barge, colony, and stearage travel, sorry but the over all design dosn't say luxery transport to me). Second some sort of shuttle trans port container.

    If you have any other ideas you would like to try just let me know.
    Phoenix...

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    but maybe we should just remove all the safety lables and let nature take it's course"

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    Quick Power/Engine Question

    From Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise
    . . .where recharging facilities for the pods' particle-beam engines are available.
    I am now working on the datasheets for the Aquarius-class support craft, and in my research I found the above quote. Would this just be the standard thrusters, or do I need to make a new propulsion/power system for Spacedock?

    And Pheonix, sounds great!
    Steven "redwood973" Wood

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    Sounds like an over coplicated discription of Impulse drives.
    Phoenix...

    "I'm not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity,
    but maybe we should just remove all the safety lables and let nature take it's course"

    "A Place For Everything & Nothing In It's Place"

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