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    Thoughts on an "average" Starfleet career.

    This topic seems to be of perennial interest, and I truly respect the efforts of the fan community (or at least certain members of it) to try to keep realism in their fan-created works, and not to populate the universe with a lot of seven-year-old Admirals. To help in this endeavor, here is what I've culled from canon. Please feel free to criticize, comment, praise, or discuss.

    Aside: I will often below make reference to when a given character graduated the academy. In no case is this just idle speculation, but in some cases it is non-canon. Simply, I started with the timeline in the Encyclopedia, then added data from specific references in episodes. For instance, in one episode Janeway mentions high school and says it was "19 years ago". I took that to mean that she had been in high school at that point, but since she might have been a freshman or a senior on that date it gave me a window of 4 years or so for her age. Comparing that with subsequent quotes narrowed the field and I have, in fact, pinned down a lot of facts about the major characters in this way.
    In the absence of any better clues, I assume characters entered Starfleet Academy at 18, and graduated 4 years later. Thus, graduation date can be deduced from birth date, if it is known.
    First, it should be noted that the central characters of the various series tend to be fast risers. Some specatacularly so, but all of them are examples of people moving up through the ranks. In contrast, in "Tapestry" Jen-Luc Picard was presented with what he found a believeable scenario that had him still a Lieutenant after more than 40 years in Starfleet. And, even if you think Tuvok had to go back to Starfleet Academy when he rejoined (not entirely unreasonable, since he'd been gone for over 50 years), he was still a Lieutenant 18 years after he would have graduated (22 years after rejoining Starfleet). So certain people can get "parked" at a certain rank for a surprisingly long period of time.

    How to get a leg-up on the competition: automatic rank or promotion.
    Some people graduate from Starfleet Academy as Lieutenants. Jim Kirk's first post after the Academy was USS Farragut, and he was a Lieutenant there suggesting that he graduated as a Lieutenant not an Ensign. Saavik wore a Lieutenant's insignia (and was addressed as "Lieutenant Saavik", IIRC) while still a cadet. It has generally been assumed that this was a reward for being near the top of one's class: IIRC, Saavik was specificly stated to be the top of her class, and Kirk has at least been assumed to have been so.
    However, we have some counter-evidence suggesting that this practice has been discontinued by the TNG era: Riker was eighth in his Academy class, and IIRC Harry Kim was actually first in his (either "Caretaker" or "Non Sequitor"), and both graduated as Ensigns.

    In the modern US military, Doctors enter as O-3s, which would be a full Lieutenant. Lawyers and others with specialized degrees do the same, and it has long been assumed that the same is done in Starfleet for Doctors and Councelors at least.
    Again, we have counter-examples: Dr. Julian Bashir was a Lieutenant Junior Grade at the end of his internship (when he first got posted to DS9), and Ezri Tegan was an Ensign as Assistant Councelor on USS Destiny, and became Counselor on DS9 (with a promotion) which shows she was fully qualified (unlike, say, and Orderly versus a Medical Doctor). So it seems likely that Deanna Troi entered Starfleet as an Ensign like everyone else.


    The Fast Track: self-fulfilling prophecy.
    Some officers rise almost meteoricly. Kirk, Picard, Riker, Janeway; all earned promotions at a rate that hardly seems reasonable. A big part of the reason for this is that, having earned some distinction early in their careers, they kept getting placed in a position to earn it again. As "the dependable lieutenant who successfully led that difficult Away Mission", each was more likely to be selected for difficult duties again.
    Let's use Riker as our example, since we know a lot about his career:
    In his first post out of the Academy, as a junior Conn officer on the Oberth class USS Pegasus, he defended the Captain against a mutiny that eventually drove them from the ship. This earned him a promotion, and marked him as a reliable officer.
    Within a few years after that, he had earned another promotion, so he was a full Lieutenant when serving on Betazed.
    Then, just a few weeks after taking a post on USS Potemkin, he was chose to lead a difficult away mission and was so valiant and self-sacrificing that he got promoted to Lieutenant Commander for it.
    Within 2 years after that he had earned another promotion and became First Officer of USS Hood.
    Finally, just 7 years after graduating from Starfleet Academy, he was offered his choice of First Officer on USS Enterprise under Jen-Luc Picard or a command of his own (USS Drake).

    Being identified as on the "Fast Track" means an officer is more likely to be offered high-risk assignments, with a corresponding higher chance for the kind of glory that gets one promoted early.


    What's an "average" career like?
    When Lore asked Data what it would take to get a uniform like his, Data began an automatic reply: 4 years at the Academy, 3 years as an Ensign, 12 years "in the Lieutenant grades", ... and that's where Lore interrupted. Data was either describing a typical career or his own career, and possably both (more on that later). Interestingly, those numbers fit quite well: If Data was describing his own career, he was promoted to Lieutenant Commander in 2360, just 4 years before getting posted aboard USS Enterprise.

    Stuck as an Ensign?
    We don't really know a whole lot about the low men on Starfleet's totem pole: Riker was an Ensign for about 7 months before heroicly defending his Captain against mutineers earned him a promotion. Ro Laren had been an Ensign for about 2 years when her actions resulted in Court Martial and prison. And, of course, Harry Kim was an Ensign for almost 7 years, but his were very special circumstances.
    Worf had been out of the Academy about 3 years when he was posted aboard USS Enterprise as a Lt.JG, so about 3 years seems pretty likely for when an Ensign can expect to become a Lieutenant, Junior Grade.

    An ocean of Lieutenants.
    Lieutenants are really the backbone of the Starfleet Officer corps: they are the ones who get the jobs done. Ensigns are trainee Lieutenants, and Commanders supervise Lieutenants, but the Lieutenants are everywhere doing everything. And some people seem destined to stay a lieutenant for the rest of their careers: Reg Barclay was already a Lieutenant in 2366 when he transferred to USS Enterprise, and was still a Lieutenant in 2377 with the Pathfinder Project. Picard found it plausable that he might have remained a Lieutenant 42 years after graduation.
    If we take Data's comment about "12 years in the Lieutenant grades" to mean that promotion to full Lieutenant comes 6 years after making JG, and then LtCmdr comes 6 years after that, then Geordi makes full Lieutenant right on schedule. So, apparently, did Dr Bashir.
    However, the just as many central characters who were Lieutenants made full Lieutenant in less than 9 years from graduation (3 as an ensign and 6 as a JG): Tasha Yar debuted as a full Lieutenant 5 years after graduation, Worf got promoted 4 years after graduation. Significantly, both of them had Picard pulling for them: Worf he wanted to replace Yar at Tactical (which likely required promotion), and Yar had performed heroic acts witnessed by Picard prior to his commanding USS Enterprise that caused him to specificly ask for her in his new command; those same acts probably brought commendation and promotion.
    Jadzia Dax I do not have full information on: she was on schedule when she debuted as a JG 6 years out of the Academy, but within the next 4 she not only made full Lieutenant but also Lt Cmdr: if she made Lieutenant before Season 3, it was "early".

    Graduates of Starfleet Medical seem to come out at Lieutenant Junior Grade. (That was Bashir's rank, and he was #2 in his class.) This makes sense when you consider they are also 6 years out of the Academy (4 in school and 2 as an Intern).

    Commanders and above: Restricted versus Unrestricted Line officers.
    In the US Military, promotion to O-4 (Lieutenant Commander) is accompanied by another kind of testing/evaluation: whether the officer in question is Restricted Line or Unrestricted Line. The difference is simple: Restricted Line officers are probably never going to get another promotion, and will be retiring after 20 years of service (or whenever they choose to leave, whichever comes first). Unrestricted Line officers may continue to recieve promotions, and may stay for up to 30 years (or even longer if they achieve Flag Rank - i.e. Admiral or above).
    Granted, Starfleet lets people stay far longer than the US Military, due no doubt to the longer productive lifespans involved, but there is canon evidence to support the idea that only "special" people are selected to rise above Lieutenant Commander.

    By Data's quote, promotion to Lieutenant Commander will come 15 years after graduation. Riker made it in 4. Geordi in 10, as did Jadzia Dax. Ben Sisko was a LtCmdr at Wolf 359 13 years after he graduated. Counselor Troi somehow made Lieutenant Commander in 5 years (or less!), as that was her insignia in the first season.

    Riker made full Commander 5 years after graduation (assuming he served as XO of USS Hood as a Commander for a year before moving to USS Enterprise). Dr Crusher had made Commander within 18 years of graduaton, or within 12 years of leaving Starfleet Medical if you prefer. Troi made full Commander by passing the Bridge Officers' Exam 11 years after graduation. Sisko made Commander 15 years after graduation, and Captain 2 years after that.
    Riker was first offered the Captain's chair 1 year after becoming a Commander, and was offered again the next year an the year after that.


    Now for the big question: Do you have to be a Captain to command a starship?
    Canon does not come down descisively on either side: DS9 covered that a Lieutenant Commander (Dax) would be addressed as "Captain" when in command of a ship, but the ship in question was really under the command of Captain Sisko, who had turned over command to a junior officer for a specific mission. Was the Defiant ever truly Worf's ship, or was it Sisko's ship on loan to Worf.
    Since it is at least a valid interpretation that Sisko was the CO of USS Defiant, there is no inarguable canon evidence of Commanders or Lieutenant Commanders captaining Starfleet ships.
    The question is relevant because there are at least 2 characters who we know have commanded ships, but they were not explicitly stated to have been Captains at the time: Picard and Janeway.
    Picard was a Lieutenant (possably JG) and just 6 years out of the Academy when the Captain of USS Stargazer was killed and Picard took command and saved the ship. That Starfleet allowed him to remain in command (for 20 years, in fact) is canon, but his rank at the time is somewhat in doubt. The recent Stargazer novels have chosen to make him a Captain, and yet another holder of the title "Youngest ever to command a starship", which Kirk was at 31 and Captain Tryla Scott held as of 2364 when Picard identified her as such upon meeting her. For my money, USS Stargazer seemed like a fairly small ship, and bumping Picard 2 ranks to Commander seems more believeable.
    (It's also worth noting that Picard was 28 when he assumed command of USS Stargazer. Riker was 29 when he turned down his first command, and 30 when he turned down his second, but he did seem to still think that becoming the Youngest Captain Ever was still an attainable goal, from his sheepish grin when Troi was talking to him.)
    Similarly, we know that Tuvok first met Janeway in 2365 at the conclusion of her first starship command. At the time, Janeway had been out of the Academy just 7 years, so her having risen all the way to Captain is somewhat surprising (that's 5 promotions in 6 years, assuming a 1 year ship command). It seems more believable (to me at least) that Janeway was a Commander at that point. By the time she is seen to be a Captain, commanding USS Voyager, she has been out of the Academy 13 years.



    Conclusions:
    It seems like 3 years as an Ensign is pretty normal, followed by around 6 years in each of the Lieutenant grades. All of the Lieutenant Commanders we've seen were fast-risers of one sort or another (under the wing and watchful eye of an inflential Captain), except Data who has remained at Lieutenant Commander for about 17 years now. Will Riker, probably the extreme model for a fast-track officer, earned 5 promotions in 7 years (although he declined that last one).

    Starship Captains seem to come in 2 versions: Extreme fast-track folks like Riker and Janeway, who just might be younger than some of their senior officers, or veterans who've been around forever and are on a first-name basis with most of the admiralty (since they all were in the Academy together) and have been in Starfleet longer than their senior officers have been alive. And occasionally, someone who is both (Picard).
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    I like your analysis very much. Thank you for it.

    I just wanted to point out one thing. In talking about needing the rank of Captain to be a Commander Officer of a starship, I'd like to bring up the fact that when Sisko first obtained command of the Defiant, he was still a Commander.

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    How about Wartime?

    There have been at least two named wars in the 20 years before the Dominion War (The Cardassian War and Tzenrekthi war) what effect would that have on an officers career. Does Starfleet grant brevet rank, which I think explians Chief O"Brians reduction in rank
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    I am not sure if this is a discussion of Canon, or Canon advancement as it applies to ST:RPG.

    Seeing as I am more interested in how it applies to the game(s), I'll continue on that basis.

    Graduates of Starfleet Medical seem to come out at Lieutenant Junior Grade.
    FASA rules have this for both Medical Branch, and Science Branch, as well.

    Additionally, a Cadet in FASA can
    fail the Cadet Cruise, and repeat
    Pass, and be assigned as Ensign
    Pass with Honors, and be assigned as Ensign
    Pass with High Honors and be assigned as LTJG.

    I personally object to any Trek officer getting LT out of the Academy, unless it was a Doctor, or a Science Officer with High Honors, or someone with great civilian experience, who was needed for the position, and went in via some special program, and not through the Academy.

    I do think that this whole business of "Youngest Captain" has been taken too far. It worked for Kirk, because that was for the show, brash, young, and agressive.

    Later Series doing this are cheapening the effect.

    I thought that the comments about Line and unrestricted line were right on.

    I do the same thing in my games, where Sciences (Spock being a notable exception) and Medical are Staff positions, not eligible for Bridge Command/ "Conn", unless they get the bridge certification/line officer training needed. Doctors will almost never do this, as a violation of the Hippocratic oath, unless they are some kind of non-starfleet pirate fisrt-aider or something.

    I feel that anyone who is going to remain a Lieutenant as a Line Officer for anything more than 6 to 8 years better just get out of Starfleet and resign.

    The ICON Rules are pretty good for doing the progression of ranks, and the Player's Guide rules for LUG are an even better upgrade.

    If Janeway made Captain in 7 years, either something is wrong, or she slept her way to the top, period, end of story.

    I personally feel that Starfleet should allow a commanding officer at any rank above Ensign, depending on the size of the vessel. I see no reason why a LTJG could not command a corvette with a small crew of say, 12 guys, perhaps less.

    All the way up to an Admiral (Lower Half)/Commodore commanding a Flagship / Battleship. In that case, it's all about Canon, but I generally take all of this rank stuff with a grain of salt.

    To my knowledge no actor portraying any of these people has any real world military experience, and it shows with the scripted actions that they are given to perform, in a lot of cases.

    The Writers, to my knowledge, did not either, except Roddenberry, and perhaps some of the outsourced people on the TOS show, but I might be wrong. Again, it is not real world, agreed, but sometimes...I just think the situations verge on the ridiculous, and the crew/cast gets away with a lot more than they should, in almost every show we see.

    I guess it is just a personal issue with me.

    Seems like they (Paramount writers) like to toss ranks and promotions back and forth, and do not make it as big of a deal as it is in the real world military.

    That is not to say that all real-world officers are competent, or good leaders etc, I have met some who were totally incompetent, inept, clueless, led by chiefs, or just not fit to wear the uniform, becuase of shady conduct. But I have met some real heroes, too. Real leaders, at all ranks.

    I like the rules LUG uses for promotions requiring certain skills. I do not use the renown rules, since I am of the mind that you do not have to be popular or well known to command a vessel in space, only good at your job.

    Finally, I'd like to see a show that regularly shows the enlisted people in the crew.

    Too many times, I have seen posts about trek gaming, where people think that all enlisted people are clueless sheep / idiots who need to be led by the hand, and they refuse to portray one, even in a "Lower Decks" scenario.

    I don't ascribe to that philosophy, either, and enlisted characters are regular or supporting cast members in all of my series episodes. I don't think FASA did as good of a job as LUG did on the enlisted PC rules.

    This is a good thread. I can imagine it took a long time to compile all of that data on Trek ranks.

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    As I understand it in the US Army, Captain (CPT)(O-3) is the highest obtained automatic rank as far as officers go . . . where was Specialist (SPC)(E-4) is the highest obtained automatic rank as far as enlisted go.

    For officers, normally, given a decent service record, nothing special, it's 18 months as 2LT (O-1), 24 months additionally as 1LT (O-2), and then CPT. After that it's by passing a board . . . after three non passed boards . . . one is no longer given any other chances . . . and can choose to be a CPT for the rest of his/her career . . . or leave when choosing to. In many ways this is much like the restricted and unrestricted LTCMDR in the Navy.

    Before there was equality between non-acadamy and acadamy (ring knockers) . . . non-acadamy grads got two chances . . . and ring knockers go three chances.

    For enlisted, normal good conduct service record, it's 6 months as an E-1, 6 additional months as a PV2 (E-2), and then 12 months as a PFC (E-3) . . . and then SPC (E-4).

    Given the size of the organization . . . and the high requirements to get in . . . I can see double the length for officers so . . .36 months (3 years) for Ensign, 48 months as a Lieutenant (Junior Grade), and then Lieutenant.

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    Great post, Jalu.

    Very close to what I recall, more or less, for the Navy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LUGTrekGM
    ...Doctors will almost never do this, as a violation of the Hippocratic oath, ...
    Actually, I can see medical doctors having no problem with the part of the Bridge Officers' Exam that gave Troi so much trouble: any doctor will likely realize that you can't always save everybody, and that sometimes all you get to choose is how many die and who.
    Doctor Crusher has pretty obviously become an Unrestricted Line officer: not only did she have her own ship in the future in "All Good Things", but Picard left her in command of the Enterprise in "Descent".
    If Janeway made Captain in 7 years, either something is wrong, or she slept her way to the top, period, end of story.
    Well, bear in mind that while at the Academy she had impressed Captain Paris, who recommended she switch to Command branch, as well as requesting her for his own ship. If you fold in a bit of the novels (which I got from Star Trek: The Magazine), within a year of graduation she had returned to the Academy for Advanced Command Training. My vote is that a lowly ensign normally couldn't get into that program, but with Captain Paris pulling for her she got in, and since it was designed for more experienced officers, she graduated a year later as a JG.
    Then, remember what I said about the Fast Track being self-fulfilling, and figure Captain/Admiral Paris was watching over her career (ie putting her in for promotion every time she did something interesting), you can explain a very rapid rise. As I said, maybe not quite to Captain in 7 years though.
    Although Captain Paris' interest may have been more personal than professional, there is no canon evidence of that.
    And don't forget the Brat Factor: Janeway's dad was Admiral Janeway, and died the year she graduated from the Academy, so there are likely a lot of high-ranking friends of Dad's who will pull a few strings for little Katie.

    In the case of other officers in command, it's partly about canon and partly about tradition. The rank title "Lieutenant Commander" actually derives from "Lieutenant Commanding", which was used to indicate an officer below a Captain in command of a ship back when the Royal Navy had Ensigns, Lieutenants, and Captains.
    In reality, Lieutenants have commanded some very small ships, but in fiction they never do. Take the example of WWII PT boats: In fiction, we have LtCmdr Quentin McHale and his XO Ensign Parker commanding a boat with a crew around 15. In reality, PT 109 was commanded by LT JG Jack Kennady, with 2 Ensigns and a crew around 9, and no PT boat in that group had a CO above LT (In fact, one was commanded by an Ensign).
    On the flip side, Admirals do not directly command ships: Admiral is basicly a desk job. And Admiral may command a fleet from aboard a given ship (ex. Admiral Nacheyev's Flagship), but there is someone else who is Captain of that ship. If Admirals could command ships, Jen-Luc Picard would have accepted promotion to Admrial long ago (it is inconcievable that it hasn't been offered).
    And of course, in TOS we saw Fleet Captains and Commodores, but we never saw an "Admiral" in command of a ship.

    (On the writers' military experience: It is a safe assuption that any male writer for TOS had experience in the military. ROTC was a required course in college in those days. And yes, by the TNG era writers with military experience is much scarcer.)
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    BTW:
    Yes, I intend this to be helpful for roleplaying.
    I posted it out here because it pertains directly to how it was in Trek, not how to model that in your game, but feel free to discuss that aspect.

    It may not have taken as much time as you think. Or it took far longer than I think.

    See, I compiled the table of who graduated when in about 10 minutes working from my notes, then I looked a couple of things up in the Encyclopedia (which mostly did not have the information I wanted) and in ST:The Magazine, and voila!: A table that shows when each character got to which rank.

    My "Notes" consist mainly of a timeline I made up a few years ago, again culled from the Encyclopedia and comments in episodes. It was only a few minutes at a time, but probably several days worth of hours all told.
    It shows me nifty interrelations, like: O'Brien is older than Sisko (though exactly how much is unknown).
    Dr Bashir was a student at Starfleet Medical the same year Dr Crusher was a teacher there.
    Dr Crusher was in Data's class at the Academy.
    Geordi was in Riker's class at the Academy.
    Bashir and Jadzia were the same age, and in the same Academy class.

    It goes on and on.
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    Hmm... Well I think that there must be some form of 'Command' branch training in the Academy, which would explain several of those inconsistiencies of people 'graduating' as Lieutenants.. Why you get into them is how well you perform in the academy, or who pulls strings for you .. That given then, theoretically a Lieutenant or higher rank can command a ship.. Technically we do see this happening of sorts.. Lieutenants are in command of an 'away mission' which is like a boat. With Treknology they don't have independance as they can always be under the watchful eye of a senior, but the point is they may get left on their own, and thus have to act in command. Certainly in my game, I have a Lieutenant in command of a small ship, that's my Canon, but the real Canon, is at best, ambiguous!

    One thing which does annoy me though is some of my players in the past have used the excuse of 'my character is a Doctor, so he should automatically be a Lieutenant' - I.e. exploit a percieved loophole int he system to get a 'free' promotion. After fierce argument my usual line is always .. No.. you can buy promotions with your career picks like everyone else! It is a slight flaw in both systems, because it does leave GM's scratching their heads as to what to do...

    But as I always say.. just because it is standard practice NOW in todays military, doesn't mean it is in the future, so the argument doesn't wash! 300 years is a LOT of time for military practice to change... do todays armies form squares, wear spanking coloured uniforms, carry muskets (except for ceremonial purposes of course) wear platemail armour or joust? Err no! As to wether, within canon, Doctors do start with a higher rank, again it is a little wooly! Bashir did, but then Bashir was exceptionally gifted, top (effectivelly, he failed the test on purpose) of his class, so he could have been bumped a rank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spyone
    (On the writers' military experience: It is a safe assuption that any male writer for TOS had experience in the military. ROTC was a required course in college in those days. And yes, by the TNG era writers with military experience is much scarcer.)
    For those of us not familiar with US military and assorted abbriviations (or at least me) could you please tell what ROTC means?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LUGTrekGM
    To my knowledge no actor portraying any of these people has any real world military experience, and it shows with the scripted actions that they are given to perform, in a lot of cases.
    The Only Actor I can think of with any military experience was James Dohan (Scotty) Canadian military, started off as a Ground Pounderin WWII, got injured in the D-Day invasion of Normandy (that's how he lost his left ring finger) got transferred to Fly-Boy status. Where his career was something you'd expect to see coming right out of Hollywood, he had discipline problems. In the series his military bearing shows only once or twice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cut
    For those of us not familiar with US military and assorted abbriviations (or at least me) could you please tell what ROTC means?
    I think this is exactly why they don't use the complex raking structures on todays Militaries on the show - it would have to be explained ! That's the last thing they want, as it's meant to be accessible!
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    By the time of Next Generation, there were using something very close to the US Navy rank structure.

    Also, If I get a player who has a doctor, graduated high honors from Starfleet medical academy, he's made a full Lieutenant, but it doesn't mean all that much, because he's staff, not line, so he can't give a command to most anyone, except others in Medical branch, typically within his of her department.

    Commodores in Star Trek are equivalent to Admiral, lowest rank. And TOS had them commanding bases, ships, taking over kirk's command, all sorts of stuff.

    Agreed, when an Admiral comes aboard a ship, that Admiral is not the Captain.

    Comma, however, when the Admiral says, "Captain, I'd like to visit the port of X within the week, make it happen." It happens.

    As I recall...

    ROTC = Reserve Officer Training Corps, basically a program to bring college students in become officers in the US (Army) Military. NROTC is the same deal for the Navy.

    I never had call to deal with the ROTC, except for one day when I was in college, they had a demonstration, where they would let a totally untrained student rappell off of Millett Hall, a 6 story building at Wright State, here in Dayton, after a short training course.

    I signed up and did it. Lots of fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LUGTrekGM

    As I recall...

    ROTC = Reserve Officer Training Corps, basically a program to bring college students in become officers in the US (Army) Military. NROTC is the same deal for the Navy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spyone
    Actually, I can see medical doctors having no problem with the part of the Bridge Officers' Exam that gave Troi so much trouble: any doctor will likely realize that you can't always save everybody, and that sometimes all you get to choose is how many die and who.
    Doctor Crusher has pretty obviously become an Unrestricted Line officer: not only did she have her own ship in the future in "All Good Things", but Picard left her in command of the Enterprise in "Descent".
    Yes, it's called triage. It's an unfortunate part of the profession, however, when you are dealiing with battle field medicine/health care . . . which is always what in civilian terms is called a Mass Casualty Incident . . . you have to choose where to use your meager resources. Remember each Company, if they are up to full TOE, which they rarely are . . . have at most three to four medics. That's one medic for every 40 other soldiers. Even with Star Trek technology . . . providing aid and comfort for all surviving wounded would be difficult.

    But battlefield medicine is a different discussion for a different time.

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    (On the writers' military experience: It is a safe assuption that any male writer for TOS had experience in the military. ROTC was a required course in college in those days. And yes, by the TNG era writers with military experience is much scarcer.)
    To bad they never used any lowcost advisors . . . I can imagine alot of the more experienced prior service individuals here, of which I am not that experienced (IMHO), willing to do it for a couple walk on roles and basic cost of living.

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