Tiger-class Combat Shuttle

[Swampy]

Another Talon-class mod

TIGER CLASS
Class and Type: Tiger-class Combat Shuttle
Commissioning Date: 2377

HULL SYSTEMS
Size: 2
Length: 24.4 metres
Beam: 16.3 metres
Height: 6.5 metres
Decks: 1
Mass: 16.0 metric tonnes
SUs Available: 625
SUs Used: 624

Hull
Outer <8>
Inner <8>

Resistance
Outer: 8 <9>
Inner: 8 <9>

Structural Integrity Field
Main: Class 3 (Protection 60/90) <20>
[1 Power / 10 Protection / round]
Backup: Class 2 (Protection 30) <9>
[1 Power / 10 Protection / round]

Specialised Hull
Atmospheric Capable <2>
Planetfall Capable <2>

PERSONNEL SYSTEMS
Crew/Passengers/Evac: 4/8/8

Crew Quarters
Spartan: 4 <1>

Environmental Systems
Basic Life Support [3 Power / round] <8>
Reserve Life Support [2 Power / round] <4>
Emergency Life Support (8 emergency shelters) <4>
Gravity [1 Power / round] <2>
Consumables: 1 month's worth <1>

Replication Systems
Food Replicators [2 Power / round] <2>
Medical Facilities: 1 (+0) [1 Power / round] <5>
Personnel Transport: Jefferies tubes <2>
Fire Suppression System [1 Power / round when active] <2>
Cargo Holds: 100 cubic metres <1>
Location: 1 hold amidships
Escape Pods <1>
Number: 6
Capacity: 4 persons

PROPULSION SYSTEMS
Warp Drive
Embedded Nacelles: Type 4.92 <39>
Upgrade Packages (already factored in to speed ratings)
Standard Upgrade: Package 1 <2>
Sustained Upgrade: Package 1 <2>
Speed: 4.0/6.0/9.1 [1 Power / .2 warp speed]
PIS: Type C (6 hours of Maximum warp) <6>

Impulse Engine
Type: Class 5 (.7c/.9c) <29>
[7/9 Power / round]
Acceleration Uprating: Class Beta (75% acceleration)
[2 Power / round when active]
Impulse Thrusters (+ .1c/.05c) <4>
[2 Power / round when active]
Location: Aft
Reaction Control System (.025c) [2 Power / round when in use] <2>

POWER SYSTEMS
Warp Engine
Type: Class 5/H (generates 299 Power / round) <65>
Location: Aft
Impulse Engine: 1 Class 5A (generates 40 Power / round)
Auxiliary Power: 2 reactors (generates 10 Power / round) <6>
Emergency Power: Type A (generates 25 Power / round) <25>
EPS: Standard Power flow, +100 Power transfer / round <20>

Standard Usable Power: 339

OPERATIONS SYSTEMS
Bridge: Forward <10>

Computers
Core 1: Amidships [5 Power / round] <4>
ODN <6>

Navigational Deflector [5 Power / round] <8>
Range: 10/20000/50000/150000
Accuracy: 5/6/8/11
Location: Forward

Sensor Systems
Long-range Sensors [5 Power / round] <30>
Range Rackage: Type 3 (Accuracy 3/4/7/10)
High Resolution: 5 LY (.5/.6-1.0/1.1-3.5/3.6-5.0)
Low Resolution: 13 LY (1/1.1-3.5/3.6-9.0/9.1-13)
Strength Package: Class 6 (Strength 6)
Gain Package: Class Beta (+2)
Coverage: Standard
Lateral Sensors [5 Power / round] <18>
Strength Package: Class 6 (Strength 6)
Gain Package: Class Beta (+2)
Coverage: Standard
Navigational Sensors [5 Power / round] <16>
Strength Package: Class 6 (Strength 6)
Gain Package: Class Beta (+2)

Sensor Skills: 3

Flight Control Systems
Autopilot: Shipboard Systems (Flight Control) 3,
Coordination 3 [1 Power / round in use] <12>

Navigation Computer
Main: Class 2 (+1) [1 Power / round] <2>
Backup: 2 <2>

Inertial Damping Fields
Main <8>
Strength: 9 [3 Power / round]
Number: 2
Backup <2>
Strength: 6 [2 Power / round]
Number: 2
Attitude Control [1 Power / round] <1>

Communication Systems
Type: Class 6 [2 Power / round] <15>
Strength: 6
Security: -3
Basic Uprating: Class Alpha (+1)
Emergency Communicatons: Yes [2 Power / round] <1>

Tractor Beams
Emitter: Class Alpha [3 Power / Strength used / round] <3>
Accuracy: 5/6/8/11
Location: Forward
Emitter: Class Alpha [3 Power / Strength used / round] <3>
Accuracy: 5/6/8/11
Location: Aft

Transporters
Type: Personnel [4 Power / use] <14>
Pads: 4
Emitter/Receiver Array: Personnel Type 6 (40000 km range)
Energizing/Transition Coils: Class F (Strength 6)
Number and Location: (1) Amidships

Security Systems
Rating 2 <8>
Anti-Intruder System: Yes [1 Power / round] <2>
Internal Force Fields [1 Power / 3 Strength] <2>

Science Systems
Rating 1 (+0) [1 Power / round] <7>
Laboratories: 0 <0>

TACTICAL SYSTEMS
Dorsal Phaser Array <21>
Type: VIII
Damage: 160 [16 Power]
Number of Emitters: 80 (up to 2 shot per round)
Auto-Phaser Interlock: Gamma (Accuracy 3/4/6/9)
Range: 10/30000/100000/300000
Location: Dorsal
Firing Arc: 360 degrees dorsal
Firing Modes: Standard, Continuous, Pulse, Wide-Beam

Ventral Phaser Array <21>
Type: VIII
Damage: 160 [16 Power]
Number of Emitters: 80 (up to 2 shots per round)
Auto-Phaser Interlock: Gamma (Accuracy 3/4/6/9)
Range: 10/30000/100000/300000
Location: Ventral
Firing Arc: 360 degrees ventral
Firing Modes: Standard, Continuous, Pulse, Wide-Beam

Forward Torpedo Launcher <15>
Standard Load: Type II photon torpedo (200 Damage)
Spread: 4
Range: 15/350000/1500000/4050000
Targeting System: Gamma (Accuracy 3/4/6/9)
Power: [20 + 5 per torpedo fired]
Location: Forward ventral
Firing Arc: Forward, but are self-guided

Torpedoes Carried: 20 <2>

TA/TTS: Class Beta [1 Power / round] <9>
Strength: 8
Bonus: +1

Weapons Skill: 4

Shields (Forward,Aft, Port,Starboard) <19 x 4>
Shield Generator: Class 2 (Protection 400+100)
[40 Power / shield / round]
Shield Grid: Type A (25% increase to 500 Protection)
Distortion Amplifiers: Class Gamma (Threshold 130+10)
Recharging System: Class 2 (40 seconds)
Advanced Shield Capabilities: Multi-Spectral
Backup Shield Generators: 4 (1 per shield) <4>

Auto-Destruct System <2>

DESCRIPTION AND NOTES
The latest design from the Talon family of small craft, the Tiger-class is a combat orientated version with upgraded engines, weaponry and shields combined with a reinforced hull. The torpedo launcher is located in a ventral spinal mount running nearly the entire length of the hull. Unlike other most other fighter designs the Tiger-class is fully capable of extended operations, although it has half the endurance of the Talon-class with only 1 month of consumables. As well as pure combat operations, the Tiger-class is often used as a standard shuttle, particularly in a high-threat area such as the Cardassian border and is favoured by Security teams being inserted into hostile areas. With a full complement a Tiger has a pilot, tactical officer, command/sensors officer and engineer/operations officer and can carry 8 passengers in limited comfort or 16 in emergency situations.

DEVELOPER'S NOTES
For those who don't like fighters in Star Trek, how about a combat shuttle?

[Tzeentch]

What's the difference between a combat shuttle and a fighter?

[Sevekk]

Originally posted by Tzeentch:
What's the difference between a combat shuttle and a fighter?

SIZE ! If you think of a "Combat Shuttle" as a big Hind D helicopter of the modern age, and a fighter as a Fighter, you can get a better picture. Perhaps a AC-130 Specture is an better example, in either case you have a craft that can carry both troops and ordanace to a fight.

Doug Odell

[Swampy]

That's the idea Sevekk.

To me a combat shuttle is a heavily armed vessel, but at the end of the day it's still a shuttle. It has a cargo & passenger area, you can walk around inside, etc. In real life, as a bulkier target than a similar mass fighter it would be more vulnerable, in game terms the difference may be minimal, perhaps nothing more than 1 SU spent on a few spartan crew quarters.

I view a fighter as a far more compact beastie, with minimal crew facilities and little or no passenger & cargo capability. It's mostly mindset & how you choose to picture the stats of a design.

[Tzeentch]

I was thinking of Star Fleet Battles, where fighters grew out of first, conventional shuttles, then combat shuttles.

Most units seem to match the following categories from SFB:

1. Shuttles (unarmed - like the shuttlepods)
2. Combat Shuttles (most of the advanced shuttles from ST work fine in this role - see the ill-fated USS Odyssey mission).
3. Fighters - low warp capable 1-3 man shuttles with dedicated weapons
4. Patrol Fighters - the Jem' Hadar attack ship and Cardassian Hideki for example.

[Sarge]

Sevekk, the AC-130 doesn't carry troops. The interior is full of guns, ammo, sensors, and fire control consoles. I've been working on Herkypigs for 11 years, and almost always have some C-130 grease under my fingernails, so feel free to ask if you want to know anything about the toughest cargo plane ever built. (Not on this forum, though.)

We now return you to your regularly scheduled topic.

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[Sevekk]

Originally posted by Sarge:
Sevekk, the AC-130 doesn't carry troops. The interior is full of guns, ammo, sensors, and fire control consoles. I've been working on Herkypigs for 11 years, and almost always have some C-130 grease under my fingernails, so feel free to ask if you want to know anything about the toughest cargo plane ever built. (Not on this forum, though.)

We now return you to your regularly scheduled topic.

I actually knew that, but because it is based off of a cargo hauler it still makes a good example. I am a student of Military Air Power nad History. Thanks for the correction though.

Doug Odell

[Cmdr Powers]

I like the idea of a family of ships based on the Talon-class. It only makes sense.

This thread ties in with discussions elsewhere about carriers. All of this assumes that Starfleet would lay out a pile of credit to build a huge number of ships solely dedicated to combat. Given the recent fracas, I don't have a problem with that, but some Trekfen will.

At any rate, there are two basic classes of canon 'fighters'- the small Starfleet Attack Fighter and the much larger Hideki/Peregrine/Jem'Hadar Attack Fighter size ships. The larger ships carry multiple crew, have much better warp capability, carry larger weapons, and in general act as small starships. The SAF operates at short, shuttle-type ranges, has low warp capability, fights in 'wings', has 1 or 2 crew, and carries a limited array of smaller weapons.

This debate over the use of fighters in space combat goes back a long, long way. Are fighters just big, manned versions of missile weapons? Or are they small, expendable ships that you can build a lot of cheaply. In modern usage, fighters carry sufficient weaponry to destroy other aircraft 3 or 4 times their size and can carry weaponry capable of inflicting damage on surface and sub-surface naval vessels. In this regard, the fighter in Starfleet has to be much like the fighters and fighter-bombers deployed by wet navies. A good example of two of the problems I have with Starfleet fighters is that the ship has to carry weapons capable of inflicting harm on a capitol ship like a D'Deridex. In other words, penetrate its shields and do sufficient damage to be worth the chance of losing the SAF and its crew in the attack. The weapons that we've seen being put on most fighters in this group are Type V and Type VI phaser arrays and microtorpedoes. Sorry, the microtorpedo just doesn't cut it. I guess this goes back to SAF's being deployed in 'wings' so that you have a mass attack of Type VI phasers and massive volleys of microtorps. This will not be 'fun' to handle in a role-playing game.

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[Tzeentch]

If you want to get REALLY out there they could launch standard torpedoes, or perhaps remodelled "anti-ship torps" with "warp booster packs." 20-30 fighters all firing photon torps at once will ruin anyones day (especially devastating since each ship is a seperate attack and you don't have that zany +1 damage per extra torp rule).

[SIR SIG]

How about some assault/troop landing shuttles. Say something like what Starship Troopers had only more SF and streamed lined.


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SIR SIG a Aussie TREK Narrator

[Sevekk]

Depending on the design a combat shuttle should be able IMHO to do the troop landing job as well. Check out ST:V for a good idea what troop deploying from a shuttle might look like.

Doug Odell

[toadkiller]

Nooo! Don't make us watch ST 5!!

- best of the small "fighter" designs IMHO-

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[Sevekk]

ST:V is ok, as long as you over look a couple of small details, like the plot and the dialog.

Doug Odell

[Karg]

Originally posted by Sevekk:
ST:V is ok, as long as you over look a couple of small details, like the plot and the dialog.

Doug Odell

LOL
By the way, for any who might be interested, there is a fan made video out available at cons called "Mystery Treker Theater:3000". It's Hysterical (Not slick though, it is made on a low budget, but so was the first seasons of MST:3K) and makes fun of Star Trek V

Karg


[This message has been edited by Karg (edited 01-18-2001).]

[This message has been edited by Karg (edited 01-18-2001).]

[calguard66]

Originally posted by Tzeentch:
If you want to get REALLY out there they could launch standard torpedoes, or perhaps remodelled "anti-ship torps" with "warp booster packs." 20-30 fighters all firing photon torps at once will ruin anyones day (especially devastating since each ship is a seperate attack and you don't have that zany +1 damage per extra torp rule).

A fighter could carry torpedoes slung under the wings like an F/A-18 with Harpoon or in weapons bays in the central hull like an F-111. Without the launcher mechanism of a ship I would give the missile the worst accuracy stats and remove the longest range category... but it's the fighter's job to carry the weapon to the target.

A flight of four high performance shuttle-size craft armed with two photon torpedoes each would be a signifigant battlefield threat. I don't have the SD rules handy, but I expect you could add a light pulse phaser forward and a Type V 720 deg aft and have a signifigant fighter/ bomber.

Any capital ship could destroy one in a single round, but the other 3 would be launching 6 torpedoes... 3 seperate 21 point attacks on the same shield, plus phaser fire.


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