How big is the NuEnterprise?

[Owen E Oulton]

The official figure tell us that the new ship is 2300 feet, or 273m long, but the detail on the images support a notion that it is only the size of the original, about 100 feet of 300m long. What do you think?

[somaticon]

heres a pic of the enterprise alongside the first movie version and the tos version hope it helps.

[Owen E Oulton]

Seems to me I should've posted this thread in the Utopia Planitia area. I've also posted an image there, with a few more comparisons...

[mechascorpio]

The official figure tell us that the new ship is 2300 feet, or 273m long, but the detail on the images support a notion that it is only the size of the original, about 100 feet of 300m long. What do you think?

Your metrics are confused. 2300' = 700m.

The topic is fraught with problems. There's the camp (including the producers of the movie and ILM) that says it's 2300+ feet, and there are those (like the post above) that say it's the same size as the originals.

Me, I'm sticking with Bad Robot's figures: 725m long, 158m high, 304m wide. Crew of 1100. The size of the shuttles, the shuttle bay and the main viewscreen on the bridge make it easy to accept it. I'm well aware of the arguments to the contrary, I just think they're mostly driven by trying to compare the two universes rather than what's up on screen.

I've been working on this and a bunch of other schematics for the Enterpise and the Kelvin this weekend.



FYI, based on some common components and layouts between the two ships, and its crew complement, I estimate the Kelvin to be 529m x 127m x 304m.

[PGoodman13]

Robert, how many decks do you give each ship? And do we have any clue what class Kelvin is? Gotta start getting ready for my next book....

Drop me an email on this, too, if you could. Love to see some of your diagrams.

[somaticon]

Hi apparently the USS Kelvin is a deep space explorer/ survey cruiser

[somaticon]

there is an article on Memory Alpha

[mechascorpio]

Robert, how many decks do you give each ship? And do we have any clue what class Kelvin is? Gotta start getting ready for my next book....

Drop me an email on this, too, if you could. Love to see some of your diagrams.

I will be Patrick, this effort is in part to share with you for yours. I just didn't want to dump anything on you right now. Don't worry, though, you'll be covered for STSFTM-like diagrams and specs. That 50% of everyone won't agree with.

To answer some questions:

- I calculate 34 decks for the Enterprise at an average of @3m/deck (not including floorspace in-between decks). There is no canon answer as of yet.
- I have not calculated the Kelvin decks yet, and there is no canon answer. But I suspect it's about 23 or 24 decks, if I've scaled the two to each other correctly.
- The only reference I've seen for the Kelvin is that it is a "Survey Class" starship. Again, probably apocryphal, not canon. I don't think it's said in the movie, written in the novel, or given on the Intel website.

I'm fairly certain that the Kelvin saucer is nearly the same width as the Enterprise. I make the Kelvin out to be 529m long, 127m tall and 304m wide. Probably about 280,000 metric tons. Based on the reference to a crew of at least 800 (maybe 100 died?), it seems likely to me that the saucers are comparable.




EDIT: from a discussion on the EAS site...

Based on the body that got sucked out from the Kelvin into space, one can guess that the phaser turrets on the saucer are 7-8 ft. tall and 6 ft. wide. Apply that to other images of the Kelvin and the 3D model on the Intel website...

Length (Saucer): 311.51 meters (1022 feet)
Height (Saucer): 8 m. (26.5 ft.)
Height (Saucer) - Tip of Bridge to tip of bottom bulb): 39.7 m. (130 ft.)
Length (Nacelle): 377 m. (1237 ft.)
Length (Secondary Hull): 210.31 m. (690 ft.)
Length (Shuttle Bay Door - 18.2 m. (60 ft.)
Length (Overall Ship): 537.21 m. (1762.5 ft.)

It's a good analysis, I think, totally different than my own in which I came up with 529m long. The question remains is how does the Kelvin compare to the Enteprise.



Patrick, I'll be in touch soon.

[The Tatterdemalion King]

Okay, if they made it over half a km long, why is it all proportionally scaled up instead of just a new design?